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Old 09 September 2011, 08:20 PM
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On BBC3 now. My conspiracy theory is they have recruited the biggest idiots and freaks possible to pretend they are conspiracy theorists.
Old 09 September 2011, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
On BBC3 now. My conspiracy theory is they have recruited the biggest idiots and freaks possible to pretend they are conspiracy theorists.
I'm watching it; what a ******* mongfest!
Old 09 September 2011, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I'm watching it; what a ******* mongfest!
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Old 09 September 2011, 08:34 PM
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I watched something similar last night.
The conspiracy theorists seem to be on a different planet to me.
Maybe I should have stayed on at school after my O levels back in 1984.....
Old 09 September 2011, 08:43 PM
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Crap programme but liked the guitar track at the end, anyone know what it was.

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Old 09 September 2011, 08:48 PM
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I have my own conspiracy theory that the conspiracy theorists are in fact patsy's who after the programme was finished were taken back to their local funny farm.

What a load of cretins, that wimmin who likes wearing the shades is a complete loon - you couldn't get a better reason to now dismiss all of the theories as absolute cr@p.

I personally don't believe the theories and having seen this pack of morons I am now even firmer in my belief.
Old 09 September 2011, 08:52 PM
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It's absolutely insulting to the memory of the victims, in my opinion, that these people can't face up to and accept the reality of what happened on that day, and instead need to comfort themselves with some quasi-religious pap.
Old 09 September 2011, 09:02 PM
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I do believe the governments do things that are totally out of order , the death of david Kelly being one of them.

As for 9/11 there are an awful lot of anomalies with this one.
Old 09 September 2011, 09:10 PM
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Loads of recordings have been released today of ATC and black box recordings for the final moments of the planes that hit the towers and the Pentagon. The only bit missing is the last half hour of the one that 'crashed in a field.' Always did think there was a chance it had been shot down. After the first three hit, that would have been a logical step anyway, but probably wouldn't be accepted by the population as reasonable.
Old 10 September 2011, 02:18 AM
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I don't agree with a lot of the conspiracy theory bollox, the fact that the proponents are all certifiable loons goes most of the way to dissuading me


But I also do not believe that it was an airliner that struck the pentagon

My personal believe is that it was a stray missile, possibly released by some **** scared, but trigger happy, National Guard fighter jockey
Old 10 September 2011, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
But I also do not believe that it was an airliner that struck the pentagon
Tell that to the people who had to pick through the smashed bones and bloody lumps of flesh of the passengers.
Old 10 September 2011, 04:10 AM
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That Charlotte really was a first class idiot.
Old 10 September 2011, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Tell that to the people who had to pick through the smashed bones and bloody lumps of flesh of the passengers.
not to mention the hundreds of eye witnesses
Old 10 September 2011, 08:49 AM
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Looking at images of the Pentagon following the Flight 77 crash on September 11, some people claimed that damage caused was much less than expected. Though the crash killed 189 people, only one of the Pentagon’s five sides is moderately damaged – the rest of the structure is intact. Many questioned the small hole in the Pentagon’s exterior, pointing out discrepancies between the damage caused and the size of the Boeing 757 jet.

A report issued by the American Society of Civil Engineers [ASCE] revealed that this damage was consistent with the 124ft wingspan of the airliner, as the wings would have not directly blasted through the Pentagon structure. The ASCE found that one of Flight 77’s wings hit the floor before impact while the other was broken off by the Pentagon’s load bearing columns – debunking the theory that the Pentagon was hit by a missile or smaller government jet.
Old 10 September 2011, 09:49 AM
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Where are the remains of the plane then?
Old 10 September 2011, 10:00 AM
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inside the fvcking building -- it hit it quite hard

100's of people saw it hit

100's of people picked the wreckage and bones out of the building

plenty of wreckage over the lawn

people want to see a cartoon type, plane size hole in the building, with the intact tail sticking out

unfortunately life doesn't work like it does in Tom & Jerry
Old 10 September 2011, 10:21 AM
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as for flight 93 -- the one that "supposedly" hit the ground, but no wreckage was found

well that does look fishy tbh

below is a technical drawing of what happens when a plane hits the ground at speed













nothing like the above was found at the crash site in Huntsville

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Old 10 September 2011, 11:33 AM
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Lot of "fishy" things associated with that terrible event.

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Old 10 September 2011, 01:10 PM
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wouldn't you expect a few inconsistencies, a few seemingly difficult to explain occurrences.

it was one of the biggest "events" in the last 100 years.

it would be odd if it did all immediately and conveniently fall into place, with no loose ends at all.

but the way life and science work is that over time these are mostly explained.

take a conspiracy theorist example - the BBC journalist saying, live on TV, that one of the WTC buildings had collapsed before it had happened -- wow odd hey, one of the biggest news stories for 100 years, a simple mistake, ----- no no way, evidence of a conspiracy, and this crap gets circled around the world and gains currency in people minds that "something odd happened" another nail in the coffin for the official story


well firstly something "odd" did happened - planes flew into buildings -- but in the case of the BBC journo, she is on record as simply saying she made a mistake, to me, in what must have been a fairly frenetic day it would be odd if no one made a mistake on live TV




http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditor...acies_iii.html

ps I don't believe everything I am told, and sure that governments lie and cover up (but they usually get found out, because people are involved and they are rubbish at keeping secrets)

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Old 10 September 2011, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
inside the fvcking building -- it hit it quite hard

100's of people saw it hit

100's of people picked the wreckage and bones out of the building

plenty of wreckage over the lawn

people want to see a cartoon type, plane size hole in the building, with the intact tail sticking out

unfortunately life doesn't work like it does in Tom & Jerry

post of the week!
Old 10 September 2011, 01:26 PM
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Occam's Razor applies.

For example the big conspiracy theory is that the WTC Towers were blown up.

Several reasons why this is non-sensical.

Watch any program on controlled demolition - to achieve that type of collapse would require months, or years of prep, hundreds, if no thousands of miles of cables, super accurate detonation systems, months of diamond drilling...

...someone would have noticed and many would have been involved.


In reality the biggest weakness of any mission is the number of people involved. The above activity would have involved a large team and one of them would have leaked, or a friend, or a friend of a friend.


Finally, and the biggest debunker of all, if someone wanted to cause a stir, don't you think that smashing two airliners into the WTC Towers was enough on it's own. Why go to all the massive risks of failure and exposure of wiring a building to blow up.
Old 10 September 2011, 01:29 PM
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Worth a watch....not that it will make any difference to conspiracy theorists because any evidence that doesn't support their paranoia is just interpreted as part of the conspiracy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I
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