NIP question
09 September 2011, 02:49 PM
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NIP question
OK anyone know the answer to this one?
Received a NIP for 36 in a 30. Fair enough no argument about the speed in question.
The driver was an Aussie visitor who I had just that day added to the insurance for my car.
So will fill in the NIP with their name and address, buit what will actually happen?
They are leaving the country in 3 weeks for starters so won't be here to prosecute.
Any ideas?
Received a NIP for 36 in a 30. Fair enough no argument about the speed in question.
The driver was an Aussie visitor who I had just that day added to the insurance for my car.
So will fill in the NIP with their name and address, buit what will actually happen?
They are leaving the country in 3 weeks for starters so won't be here to prosecute.
Any ideas?
09 September 2011, 03:06 PM
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Agree with Leslie, make sure you are bulletproof before you send the info back. They will not be best pleased if it turns out anything was not in order. Oh, and send it back the day before Bruce goes home, save him some grief.
09 September 2011, 03:14 PM
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Feel a bit guilty that no one is to pay for such a heinous crime too... oh well LOL!
09 September 2011, 09:19 PM
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Genuine cases rarely come to anything. However those jumping on the bandwagon raising this defence have been caught out and been charged with perverting the course of justice.
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09 September 2011, 09:25 PM
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Worst case 36 in a 30 will result in one of those speed awareness workshops, the one where they tell you how evil you are by being a terrible threat to life itself. Tw@ts! 
Mine cost me £95 too. I had to bite my lip for the whole thing!
Mine cost me £95 too. I had to bite my lip for the whole thing!
10 September 2011, 10:57 AM
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Anyway in this case that won't be an issue unless they are going to pop over to Aus and do it there LOL!
25 October 2011, 11:37 AM
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Well this hasn't gone away after all.
Received a letter from police this morning which says
Neither of these two cases are true. The information I gave is 100% correct!
They then go on to say they have enclosed a further Section 172 for me to fill in which they haven't.
I called them, got cut off 4 times whilst on hold before evenetually speaking to them and they are sending the missing 172 out and a photo of the offence to which the girl on the phone laughed when I said "Does it look like a 46 yo baldish guy driving??? No it doesn't does it?"
They also require proof my overseas visitor was insured, here in the UK and more information relating to how they can track them down.... like giving them a home address isn't enough... probably isn't bearing in mind they can't remember to enclose a basic form they refer to in the letter!
Parasites!
Received a letter from police this morning which says
Originally Posted by Police
I refer to your recent nomination which I am afraid has not been substantiated. You may have been mistaken or more seriously you may have knowingly falsely nominated which is a serious offence and carries a custodial sentence
They then go on to say they have enclosed a further Section 172 for me to fill in which they haven't.
I called them, got cut off 4 times whilst on hold before evenetually speaking to them and they are sending the missing 172 out and a photo of the offence to which the girl on the phone laughed when I said "Does it look like a 46 yo baldish guy driving??? No it doesn't does it?"
They also require proof my overseas visitor was insured, here in the UK and more information relating to how they can track them down.... like giving them a home address isn't enough... probably isn't bearing in mind they can't remember to enclose a basic form they refer to in the letter!
Parasites!
25 October 2011, 11:48 AM
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Well this hasn't gone away after all.
Received a letter from police this morning which says
Neither of these two cases are true. The information I gave is 100% correct!
They then go on to say they have enclosed a further Section 172 for me to fill in which they haven't.
I called them, got cut off 4 times whilst on hold before evenetually speaking to them and they are sending the missing 172 out and a photo of the offence to which the girl on the phone laughed when I said "Does it look like a 46 yo baldish guy driving??? No it doesn't does it?"
They also require proof my overseas visitor was insured, here in the UK and more information relating to how they can track them down.... like giving them a home address isn't enough... probably isn't bearing in mind they can't remember to enclose a basic form they refer to in the letter!
Parasites!
Received a letter from police this morning which says
Neither of these two cases are true. The information I gave is 100% correct!
They then go on to say they have enclosed a further Section 172 for me to fill in which they haven't.
I called them, got cut off 4 times whilst on hold before evenetually speaking to them and they are sending the missing 172 out and a photo of the offence to which the girl on the phone laughed when I said "Does it look like a 46 yo baldish guy driving??? No it doesn't does it?"
They also require proof my overseas visitor was insured, here in the UK and more information relating to how they can track them down.... like giving them a home address isn't enough... probably isn't bearing in mind they can't remember to enclose a basic form they refer to in the letter!
Parasites!
From now on, i will always ask for a photo.
25 October 2011, 11:50 AM
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If you have got or can get the insurance cover note to prove you had insured your foreign friend then there is nothing to worry about.
If you have complied with the first nip completed it and nominated your friend within 28 days. The police will try and bully you into giving in. Unfortunately they will take it as far as court to get you to give in. This is how desperate the police are for money.
You have to stand your ground.
Andy
If you have complied with the first nip completed it and nominated your friend within 28 days. The police will try and bully you into giving in. Unfortunately they will take it as far as court to get you to give in. This is how desperate the police are for money.
You have to stand your ground.
Andy
25 October 2011, 12:15 PM
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I have no issue with them investigating, but
a) they aren't, I am doing it for them.
b) the opening statement says I am either stupid or lying - which is close to libel in my book!
Don't worry as I will be standing my ground, but this is not the way the law should be. If instead of their stupid little camera van posting a letter they had a police officer stopping the speeidng vehicles none of this nonsense would be necessary.
Oh and as for the photo idea they state quite clearly in their initial letter that this is not admissable as evidence of who was driving!
a) they aren't, I am doing it for them.
b) the opening statement says I am either stupid or lying - which is close to libel in my book!
Don't worry as I will be standing my ground, but this is not the way the law should be. If instead of their stupid little camera van posting a letter they had a police officer stopping the speeidng vehicles none of this nonsense would be necessary.
Oh and as for the photo idea they state quite clearly in their initial letter that this is not admissable as evidence of who was driving!
25 October 2011, 12:26 PM
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Give them nothing & see them in court. Will never get there imho. They've got some cheek to write that considering that they have no evidence to the contrary!
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Well this hasn't gone away after all.
Received a letter from police this morning which says
Neither of these two cases are true. The information I gave is 100% correct!
They then go on to say they have enclosed a further Section 172 for me to fill in which they haven't.
I called them, got cut off 4 times whilst on hold before evenetually speaking to them and they are sending the missing 172 out and a photo of the offence to which the girl on the phone laughed when I said "Does it look like a 46 yo baldish guy driving??? No it doesn't does it?"
They also require proof my overseas visitor was insured, here in the UK and more information relating to how they can track them down.... like giving them a home address isn't enough... probably isn't bearing in mind they can't remember to enclose a basic form they refer to in the letter!
Parasites!
Received a letter from police this morning which says
Neither of these two cases are true. The information I gave is 100% correct!
They then go on to say they have enclosed a further Section 172 for me to fill in which they haven't.
I called them, got cut off 4 times whilst on hold before evenetually speaking to them and they are sending the missing 172 out and a photo of the offence to which the girl on the phone laughed when I said "Does it look like a 46 yo baldish guy driving??? No it doesn't does it?"
They also require proof my overseas visitor was insured, here in the UK and more information relating to how they can track them down.... like giving them a home address isn't enough... probably isn't bearing in mind they can't remember to enclose a basic form they refer to in the letter!
Parasites!
25 October 2011, 12:31 PM
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I have no issue with them investigating, but
a) they aren't, I am doing it for them.
b) the opening statement says I am either stupid or lying - which is close to libel in my book!
Don't worry as I will be standing my ground, but this is not the way the law should be. If instead of their stupid little camera van posting a letter they had a police officer stopping the speeidng vehicles none of this nonsense would be necessary.
Oh and as for the photo idea they state quite clearly in their initial letter that this is not admissable as evidence of who was driving!
a) they aren't, I am doing it for them.
b) the opening statement says I am either stupid or lying - which is close to libel in my book!
Don't worry as I will be standing my ground, but this is not the way the law should be. If instead of their stupid little camera van posting a letter they had a police officer stopping the speeidng vehicles none of this nonsense would be necessary.
Oh and as for the photo idea they state quite clearly in their initial letter that this is not admissable as evidence of who was driving!
S172 was constructed so the police didn't have to do any leg work in investigating a crime!!
25 October 2011, 01:00 PM
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25 October 2011, 07:44 PM
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What do they mean by "has not been substantiated"? Have they followed up and decided your friend was not actually insured or in the country, or are they just saying they don't consider the insurance to be sufficient evidence? If the latter then it's difficult to see what you can do to prove you weren't driving, so if you're sure of your ground (and can get evidence of flights etc. from your friend as corroborating evidence) then you should tell them to take you to court.
You have complied with the law so far by filling in the NIP, and from here there is no legal requirement on you to say anything more until this reaches court.
You have complied with the law so far by filling in the NIP, and from here there is no legal requirement on you to say anything more until this reaches court.
26 October 2011, 08:22 AM
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http://www.pepipoo.com/ may be of help....
Good luck dude!
how to garages go on when people that test drive cars get caught????
Good luck dude!
how to garages go on when people that test drive cars get caught????
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