Conspiracy Theories - Any Believers?
09 September 2011, 11:45 AM
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Conspiracy Theories - Any Believers?
After watching some of the programmes on tv about 9/11 this last week or so, and seeing a thread on another forum about it, I'm curious if there are any believers on here, not just in the 9/11 but in other conspiracy theories.
I was browsing the net this morning, Googling a few names, and I'm quite surprised by what I've found. I was worried about some of the 9/11 peeps, but it turns out others believe there could be a vast underworld of reptilian people who control governments and corporations all over the world. They're controlling us all right now.
Is anyone else scared?
http://revolutionoftruth.blogspot.co...-theories.html
I was browsing the net this morning, Googling a few names, and I'm quite surprised by what I've found. I was worried about some of the 9/11 peeps, but it turns out others believe there could be a vast underworld of reptilian people who control governments and corporations all over the world. They're controlling us all right now.
Is anyone else scared?
http://revolutionoftruth.blogspot.co...-theories.html
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09 September 2011, 12:03 PM
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I saw that program last night.
It was good to see the ex-TA guy taking on board the solid evidence and changing his view but that Asian guy and the ex-nanny, God, talk about tin foil hat brigade, no amount of factual evidence could shake them out of their little fantisies
There's a woman at work that's convinced Diana was murdered.
It was good to see the ex-TA guy taking on board the solid evidence and changing his view but that Asian guy and the ex-nanny, God, talk about tin foil hat brigade, no amount of factual evidence could shake them out of their little fantisies
There's a woman at work that's convinced Diana was murdered.
09 September 2011, 12:12 PM
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Not everything you read is true. Not everything you see is fact.
Just because the American Government said `A` & `B` happened, doesn't neccesarily mean it did.
Remember, we are still awaiting to see these weapons of mass destruction that both the British & American Governments said Iraq had.
They wouldn't make such claims up just to go in an invade....... would they?
Just because the American Government said `A` & `B` happened, doesn't neccesarily mean it did.
Remember, we are still awaiting to see these weapons of mass destruction that both the British & American Governments said Iraq had.
They wouldn't make such claims up just to go in an invade....... would they?
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09 September 2011, 12:24 PM
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If I was an Illuminati I could not tell you!!
A friend of mind who is ex-US secret service and now a successful business woman is totally convinced the Illumanti exist.
And another mutual friend, a multi-millionaire successful businessman, totally believes 911 was a CIA plot (I am convinced it is just a Beetle based car but who am I to comment)!
A friend of mind who is ex-US secret service and now a successful business woman is totally convinced the Illumanti exist.
And another mutual friend, a multi-millionaire successful businessman, totally believes 911 was a CIA plot (I am convinced it is just a Beetle based car but who am I to comment)!
09 September 2011, 12:37 PM
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The Illuminati (Bavarian, if you will) were formed to mastermind the creation of the New World Order.
They've had plenty of time to do this, but as far as we know haven't yet.
What's taking so long?
Please, don't have nightmares. Do sleep well. ©Nick Ross
They've had plenty of time to do this, but as far as we know haven't yet.
What's taking so long?
Please, don't have nightmares. Do sleep well. ©Nick Ross
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09 September 2011, 12:39 PM
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The only part of 9/11 that I am a bit sus on is the Pentagon.
"Crown" has some serious G to A AA capability. I dont understand why they did not use it. They defo had some time to get ready.
Second, there must be lots of CCTV footage. Yet all we get, 10 years later are about 5 frames from a camera on a barrier.. that does not actually show any aircraft.
I would also question the flying, to fly a 757 that low (taking down lamp posts 300m away) and not have an engine touch the floor, at 400+mph.... thats some serious skill. Or luck.
Hmmm.
Still 50/50.
"Crown" has some serious G to A AA capability. I dont understand why they did not use it. They defo had some time to get ready.
Second, there must be lots of CCTV footage. Yet all we get, 10 years later are about 5 frames from a camera on a barrier.. that does not actually show any aircraft.
I would also question the flying, to fly a 757 that low (taking down lamp posts 300m away) and not have an engine touch the floor, at 400+mph.... thats some serious skill. Or luck.
Hmmm.
Still 50/50.
09 September 2011, 12:50 PM
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The only part of 9/11 that I am a bit sus on is the Pentagon.
"Crown" has some serious G to A AA capability. I dont understand why they did not use it. They defo had some time to get ready.
Second, there must be lots of CCTV footage. Yet all we get, 10 years later are about 5 frames from a camera on a barrier.. that does not actually show any aircraft.
I would also question the flying, to fly a 757 that low (taking down lamp posts 300m away) and not have an engine touch the floor, at 400+mph.... thats some serious skill. Or luck.
Hmmm.
Still 50/50.
"Crown" has some serious G to A AA capability. I dont understand why they did not use it. They defo had some time to get ready.
Second, there must be lots of CCTV footage. Yet all we get, 10 years later are about 5 frames from a camera on a barrier.. that does not actually show any aircraft.
I would also question the flying, to fly a 757 that low (taking down lamp posts 300m away) and not have an engine touch the floor, at 400+mph.... thats some serious skill. Or luck.
Hmmm.
Still 50/50.
09 September 2011, 01:01 PM
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I don't believe in any conspiracy around 9/11 although as mentioned above the Pentagon one does look a little odd.
There is no doubt that things do go on that we are not told about, or misinformed but this isn't one of them.
There is no doubt that things do go on that we are not told about, or misinformed but this isn't one of them.
09 September 2011, 01:11 PM
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I believe that 9/11 was allowed to happen. The Bush administration cut funding to anti terrorism despite the outgoing clinton making a point about how real the terroirist threat was. They then igonred plenty of warnings about 9/11. WHile I don;t believe they mastermined anything I believe they wanted a large scale attack for all the monetary and pilitical gain it offered to the republican party and their friends.
09 September 2011, 02:44 PM
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Flight 93 only left a small crater in a field? The programme last night shows a demonstration of dropping a stone onto a pile of flour and it disappearing into the mound & covering itself up.How could such a large aircraft leave such a small hole?The guy would have been better demonstrating the effect of an aircraft hitting the ground at high speed by stamping on a Coke tin.
09 September 2011, 03:05 PM
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You might also ask how a large aircraft could hit the Pentagon leaving no aircraft wreckage outside on the grass!
There was a video showing internal explosions just before Building No 7 collapsed too.
Lots of questions could be asked I reckon.
How far can one trust a politician these days?
Les
There was a video showing internal explosions just before Building No 7 collapsed too.
Lots of questions could be asked I reckon.
How far can one trust a politician these days?
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09 September 2011, 03:14 PM
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I would hope that 9/11 wasn't allowed to happen but a few things don't seem right.
As mentioned the pentagon, a plane flying that fast and that low shouldn't be possible from what i read as the amount of air passing underneath the plane would cause it to lift off the ground, maybe if it was a very skilled pilot onboard it could be done but someone with a small amount of flying time in a light aircraft doesn't seem right.
The other one mentioned was building 7, that didn't come into contact with a plane and had a few office fires in it that collapsed at free fall speed into it's own footprint seems a bit iffy.
As mentioned the pentagon, a plane flying that fast and that low shouldn't be possible from what i read as the amount of air passing underneath the plane would cause it to lift off the ground, maybe if it was a very skilled pilot onboard it could be done but someone with a small amount of flying time in a light aircraft doesn't seem right.
The other one mentioned was building 7, that didn't come into contact with a plane and had a few office fires in it that collapsed at free fall speed into it's own footprint seems a bit iffy.
09 September 2011, 03:58 PM
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You might also ask how a large aircraft could hit the Pentagon leaving no aircraft wreckage outside on the grass!
There was a video showing internal explosions just before Building No 7 collapsed too.
Lots of questions could be asked I reckon.
How far can one trust a politician these days?
Les
There was a video showing internal explosions just before Building No 7 collapsed too.
Lots of questions could be asked I reckon.
How far can one trust a politician these days?
Les
the internal explosion, controlled demolition theories have been disproved in so many ways i really cant be bothered to list them.
Think about the intense pressures of thousands of tons as the building started to collapse onto what are in all intents and purposes are hermatically sealed offices guess where the weak link would be ??
09 September 2011, 08:19 PM
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Apparently there was plenty of wreckage but obviously censored at the time just google it there are literally thousands of images available
the internal explosion, controlled demolition theories have been disproved in so many ways i really cant be bothered to list them.
Think about the intense pressures of thousands of tons as the building started to collapse onto what are in all intents and purposes are hermatically sealed offices guess where the weak link would be ??
the internal explosion, controlled demolition theories have been disproved in so many ways i really cant be bothered to list them.
Think about the intense pressures of thousands of tons as the building started to collapse onto what are in all intents and purposes are hermatically sealed offices guess where the weak link would be ??
09 September 2011, 09:01 PM
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US government did it them selfs(SCUMMY BA**ARDS), they needed a big enough reason to invade the middle east.
The guy who made this video was a young Uni student at the time "LOOSE CHANGE"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
The guy who made this video was a young Uni student at the time "LOOSE CHANGE"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
09 September 2011, 09:29 PM
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My personal theory is that the US Government know it was going to happen, but either didn't have enough info to stop it happening, or let it happen to justify the war.
I don't believe they had anything to do with the plot themselves, they just knew it was going to happen.
I don't believe they had anything to do with the plot themselves, they just knew it was going to happen.
10 September 2011, 11:01 AM
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Did the US governament know it was going to happen? Possibly, but I doubt it. Were they involved in it? Absolutely not.
The conspiracy theories are embarrassingly bad.
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10 September 2011, 11:21 AM
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I love the way so many people on here can't bring themselves to question the integrity of a government from another Western country while seemingly being quite happy to label that of their own (at the time) as a bunch of crooked bent evil self serving greedy stop at nothing pigs at the trough.... the irony 
10 September 2011, 11:49 AM
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Apparently there was plenty of wreckage but obviously censored at the time just google it there are literally thousands of images available
the internal explosion, controlled demolition theories have been disproved in so many ways i really cant be bothered to list them.
Think about the intense pressures of thousands of tons as the building started to collapse onto what are in all intents and purposes are hermatically sealed offices guess where the weak link would be ??
the internal explosion, controlled demolition theories have been disproved in so many ways i really cant be bothered to list them.
Think about the intense pressures of thousands of tons as the building started to collapse onto what are in all intents and purposes are hermatically sealed offices guess where the weak link would be ??
I did hear that the Pentagon is a very heavily reinforced building, far more than one might expect.
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10 September 2011, 11:55 AM
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It's not a question of thinking the US govt are above reproach, but like most governments, they are not totally crooked, nor are they totally honest.
They have done some dodgy things, but keeping things a secret is not easy. The conspiracy theories about 9/11 would need the co-operation of thousands, it not tens of thousands. It simply wouldn't work. Also, the theories are based upon poor misunderstanding of what actually went on and no appreciation of how things actually work.
Much like the Moon landings ones, in fact.
Occam's Razor applies here, methinks.
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They have done some dodgy things, but keeping things a secret is not easy. The conspiracy theories about 9/11 would need the co-operation of thousands, it not tens of thousands. It simply wouldn't work. Also, the theories are based upon poor misunderstanding of what actually went on and no appreciation of how things actually work.
Much like the Moon landings ones, in fact.
Occam's Razor applies here, methinks.
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10 September 2011, 01:43 PM
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I love the way so many people on here can't bring themselves to question the integrity of a government from another Western country while seemingly being quite happy to label that of their own (at the time) as a bunch of crooked bent evil self serving greedy stop at nothing pigs at the trough.... the irony
As for the theories that it's all planned/done for a minority of corporate interests: well, bring forth the evidence and I'll start to give that some credibility. Just blindly believing something that gives me the kind of answer I want to have isn't my cup of tea.
