JonMc

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Oil prices down, petrol up and more rises on the way

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14508213

Plenty of excuses from the petrol industry as to why they need to keep prices up to protect their profits

ScoobySteve69

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No point even mentioning it anymore, nothing we can do about it in this country!

EddScott

The article says only 30% of the price we pay is dictated by the price of oil.

If they reduce duty, we'd pay elsewhere. When times are as hard as they are for the government they are hardly likely to reduce their slice.

Walk, share a car, take local transport. If you're a family, have one nice car to share and one cheap mile muncher to share. It's what we do. My jeep is a 4.0L auto and no way we could use it as a main car. I get 200 miles from £80.

J4CKO

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Edd, spot on, you get similar from your Jeep as I do from my Saab, well, 220 for £70.

EddScott

Really? What SAAB is it?

I quite like the 93 shape. I've spoken to M3 owners who only get mid teen MPG in town. Mines mostly town driving.

I actually got way more MPG from my old UK turbo Impreza. Not often you look at an Impreza as a way of saving fuel costs

sparkykev

Get a scooter, great for the summer.

stilover

Summer is a good time of year to Die.

f1_fan

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The point is though that the chancellor said in April he would not let this happen. Yet here we are!!!

Rob Day

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I know that feeling, thats around 16 miles to gallon isnt it. I once had a Series II V8 Landrover, even when fuel was at 80p per litre I just couldnt justify using it

f1_fan

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Form the article on the BBC

Absolute f**king bare faced lie!!!!

9th May when peteol prices rached their record high - exchange rate was 1.63

Today exchange rate is 1.63

Oil is $30 a barrel cheaper than it was then.

It's one thing being shafted openly, but being lied to as well just takes the biscuit!!!

*****!!!! As for you Osborne you lying slimy littl toad - hope something very nasty happens to you!!! You deserve it!

ALi-B

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That's quite funny, my old Monaro 6.0 VXR would happily do 22mpg in town

....Whilst my old Scoob with an engine a third of the capacity, half the cylinders, four times the number of the camshafts but same number of valves and 150bhp less horse power and 150lbft less torque with the same rpm redline in a chassis weighing 350kg less would do an amazing....21mpg

Golf R32 matches the Monaro on MPG too (does bout 22-23mpg)

Work that lot out

500

Ali, how did you get the quarter of the camshafts figure - I can't work it out!

ALi-B

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Opps, meant the other way round: Impreza has four camshafts...Monaro has one camshaft (16valve pushrod V8).

Leslie

Surely it is all down the the amount of energy required to push a car along at a particular speed as well as the efficiency of the engine in converting the petrol into the energy quoted. It will also depend of course on how you drive the car-vast amounts of acceleration will also cost more fuel.

A naturally light throttle foot saves a lot!

Les

ALi-B

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Quite right, but If anything I drove teh Subaru more sedately as the engine never really got inetrested intil the turbo kicked in @3000rpm...my daily commutes rarely saw that amount of fun. However if I did rag it, MPG would fall in the the high teens.

Wearas both the Golf and Monaro have lots of instant power from 1000rpm so I tended to drivw them harder on the daily commute, and I was rewarded with...better fuel consumption! Hmmm. :confused. If I tip-toe around, I can see 28mpg on the Golf and about 25mpg on the Monaro...Impreza 23mpg.

I thinks it to do with the Impreza's low compression ratio (8.0:1 vs 10.9:1 and 11.3:1) . It makes for very inefficient combustion - even though it has less 'pumping loss'.

baz995

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cant wait till next year, they said on BBC breakfast this morning its going up 8p a litre WTF

Adrian F

The youth showed you how to get government policy changed, the government has already pledged 50 Million pounds to be pumped into riot hit area's to not just repair the damage but to improve the area's to prevent future riots, as one man interviewed in Tottenham said the riots in the 80's got them a nice new leisure centre he wondered what they will give them this time.

There you go whinging changes no policy , protest marches change nothing look at the invasion of Iraq after all the big protests and yet Poll Tax was scraped because of?

CREWJ

They will never come back down again.

I've even started looking for a second car just to pootle around in.

Wurzel

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Aral 102 ron stuff dropped 7c a litre over the last 2 weeks from 167.9c to a mear 160.9c a litre. Still cost 84 euros to fill up though.

StickyMicky

You can, you can stop driving **** MPG cars, although most dont want to do that, i have already started weaning myself off mine, been thinking of changing it for a while, and at the back of my mind i am thinking "**** it, get a cheap td derv for the commute, and just use the mTB for everything else"

Yes i am "giving in" i never thought it would happen, but i simply don't use my car for "proper driving" any more, i am sick of paying £65 for juice every 2 weeks, driving to work and doing the odd beer run. Yes its a 2.5 petrol and the mpg is not as bad as the scooby before, but its still only ever going to go up and up, and i begrudge the future increases already.

The thrills i used to get on a good road with a well balanced/powered car have been totally eclipsed by me throwing myself down a mountain or through a forest on my MTB, and it costs me NOTHING to do so, apart from the trips that need me to transport the car on a bike rack

If i need to go to the supermarket for some beer i will take the car, if i am just out visiting my mate at my old car wash, i already just ride it on the bike.

£130 on fuel to simply go to work, its just ****!

I really love cars, and i still think about getting another nice powerfull one, but deep down i know its just going to be another while before i turn around and think WTF did i do that for

ScoobySteve69

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Spose I`m lucky working shifts. I only go to work (25 mile round trip) 12 times a month. I`ll change my car when I want to, not when fuel prices / government dictate when I should

StickyMicky

That is fair enough, i used to say that

You will never beat them though

alcazar

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Both 98 octane and diesel have come down by €0.06 a litre this week.

Apparently in response to oil price drops, although it was VERY noticeable that it went up just as the French were going on hoilday, last two weeks in July, and now they are all going home, down it comes.

Whereas in the UK............"What can WE do" is the government response, while holding out their hands for the extra VAT

And THEN they won't be able to understand fuel price riots.

f1_fan

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Bring them on!

bigsinky

[smug mode] i do 4.4 miles a day to work.[/smug mode]

i know, i know, lazy bastid. my LS400 does 23 mpg so it costs me a gallon of fuel a week to go to work. Filled it up the other week and even with a 5p/litre off sainsbury's voucher it came to £99.82

stevebt

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well according to the BBc website there is two 3.6p rises due to start from January 2012 and in August 2012 another 1p so its gonna be hitting £1.70 a litre soon