What's your take on this? Strauss-Kahn
01 July 2011, 05:03 PM
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What's your take on this? Strauss-Kahn
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13986970
They're likely to drop the case due to the credibility of the victim.
So, if you ever want to sexually assault/rape someone, make sure it's someone who's not 'credible' and you'll get away with it!
They're likely to drop the case due to the credibility of the victim.
So, if you ever want to sexually assault/rape someone, make sure it's someone who's not 'credible' and you'll get away with it!
01 July 2011, 05:58 PM
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You'll probably find dirt of many people of you look hard enough. Does seem this is based on inconsistencies in her story though as well.
From what her lawyer said it seems irrefutable he did something to her and blew his load in her mouth....it's now his word against hers as to whether it was consensual or not. Even if it was I doubt he wined and dined her into bed though.
From what her lawyer said it seems irrefutable he did something to her and blew his load in her mouth....it's now his word against hers as to whether it was consensual or not. Even if it was I doubt he wined and dined her into bed though.
01 July 2011, 06:28 PM
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02 July 2011, 11:11 AM
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Heard a Harvard Law Professor on Newsnight saying there wasn't a snowball's chance that case would now go ahead.
But a lot of peeps in France think he would be fine as their President
And even if he didn't rape her (??) he certainly took advantage of the poor woman who possibly was not used to overpowering sexual bullies.
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But a lot of peeps in France think he would be fine as their President
And even if he didn't rape her (??) he certainly took advantage of the poor woman who possibly was not used to overpowering sexual bullies.
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02 July 2011, 02:35 PM
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As for the "maid", lots of unanswered, as yet, questions. See ... http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2011/07/...laining-to-do/ ... and the other blogs it links to for more questions than answers.
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02 July 2011, 03:24 PM
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Umm, how did he "take advantage" of her? And, even if he did, how do you know this to be so? As much as he sounds like an arrogant SOB, etc etc from all the media stories, he is innocent until proved guilty.
As for the "maid", lots of unanswered, as yet, questions. See ... http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2011/07/...laining-to-do/ ... and the other blogs it links to for more questions than answers.
Dave
As for the "maid", lots of unanswered, as yet, questions. See ... http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2011/07/...laining-to-do/ ... and the other blogs it links to for more questions than answers.
Dave
02 July 2011, 05:18 PM
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My understanding was that there is no doubt that sex took place and there is evidence that this was quite rough, bruising etc. May be that's what she wanted but here was a worldly wise powerful man vs a probably much less educated African immigrant. So I think it's a reasonable assumption that he took advantage of her especially in view of his known past history as a womanising predator. dl
* Nafissatou Diallo was on the 28th floor where Strauss-Kahn’s suite was located the day of the alleged DSK attack – but she normally worked on another floor. It is now alleged by senior hotel employees that she specifically asked to be given the floor while another maid was absent on holiday.
* Further investigation by New York City police detectives working with Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance revealed that Diallo has lied about rape before – crucially, to gain entry to the US in the first place.
* The convincing nature of her original testimony to the NYPD was the result of special training. She had rehearsed the narrative of lies for asylum so often – listening to them over and over on an audiotape supplied by a male accomplice in Guinea, in order to hoodwink the US immigration authorities. Assistant DA’s gained this confession from her once it emerged that there were holes and contradictions in Diallo’s story.
Not as innocent as the prosecution tried to, initially, make her out!
Rape is a nasty offence I agree but, to my mind, false accusation of same is even more reprehensible.
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02 July 2011, 05:44 PM
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I always thought he was set up. Perhaps he did have 'relations' with her which is incredibly misguided, but easy to do with someone so egotistical that a maid must SURELY find him irresistible.
02 July 2011, 06:30 PM
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It's not a reasonable assumption at all! See John Ward's ;latest for even more information that's coming to light ... http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2011/07/...-dsks-accuser/ ...
Not as innocent as the prosecution tried to, initially, make her out!
Rape is a nasty offence I agree but, to my mind, false accusation of same is even more reprehensible.
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Not as innocent as the prosecution tried to, initially, make her out!
Rape is a nasty offence I agree but, to my mind, false accusation of same is even more reprehensible.
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But I have been wrong before (often) so perhaps he is a jolly nice chap and behaves like a perfect gentleman to the woman he meets.
dl
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02 July 2011, 07:45 PM
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The only surprise here, for me, is that the new evidence was uncovered by the district attorneys investigators; rather than those working for Strauss-Kahns defence team.....
02 July 2011, 10:57 PM
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It's a recurring theme, in a country where prosecutors are far too political.
03 July 2011, 09:49 AM
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There are various specific pieces of information here that create a lot of doubt about whether she really was raped - not just vague issues about her character.
- The $100K paid into her bank account. It's possible she was just helping her drug-dealer boyfriend launder money, but could this have been payment for setting DSK up?
- The fact that she has previously lied about being raped so effectively as to fool US immigration, based on memorising a story from cassette tape. If she lied so effectively then, maybe she is lying now.
- The phone call with the guy in prison which suggests she had a financial angle to pressing charges.
It's difficult to see what evidence the prosecution can now come up with which will prove DSK guilty beyond reasonable doubt (it would be a bit suspicious if an eyewitness or CCTV evidence were to turn up now).
- The $100K paid into her bank account. It's possible she was just helping her drug-dealer boyfriend launder money, but could this have been payment for setting DSK up?
- The fact that she has previously lied about being raped so effectively as to fool US immigration, based on memorising a story from cassette tape. If she lied so effectively then, maybe she is lying now.
- The phone call with the guy in prison which suggests she had a financial angle to pressing charges.
It's difficult to see what evidence the prosecution can now come up with which will prove DSK guilty beyond reasonable doubt (it would be a bit suspicious if an eyewitness or CCTV evidence were to turn up now).
03 July 2011, 10:29 AM
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04 July 2011, 12:56 PM
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If we had possession of all the evidence for and against which the police have, we might just be entitled to say one way or the other.
So far I don't think we are in a position to say whether he did it or not.
Les
So far I don't think we are in a position to say whether he did it or not.
Les
04 July 2011, 04:17 PM
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If she thought the case would not succeed at the time than she should not be making accusations which cannot be proved at this time. It amounts to slander unless she can prove what she is saying.
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25 July 2011, 07:59 PM
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Mmm... the maid has 'gone public'. I would of thought that would immediately stop all prosecution as it'll be impossible for him to get a fair trial.
http://news.yahoo.com/going-public-s...073303369.html
http://news.yahoo.com/going-public-s...073303369.html
23 August 2011, 12:04 AM
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