any self employed hgv drivers on here????
03 May 2011, 10:06 AM
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any self employed hgv drivers on here????
hello as above bit of a long shot pros cons is it worth while /pain in the arrrrrse? all input welcome.
im interested in self empolyed not owner driver theres a lot of agencys offering this option and its more money
thanks in advance
im interested in self empolyed not owner driver theres a lot of agencys offering this option and its more money
thanks in advance
03 May 2011, 05:09 PM
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anyway theres a lot of agency work around my area and there is the option of being self employed are you better off being self emp/or better off paye?
i no that you loose the perks of holiday pay/sick pay as some agencys offer this on the paye. whats the pros cons? hope that makes sense mate
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04 May 2011, 04:56 PM
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Depends on how often they will pay you......daily/weekly/monthly....or 60/90 days 
I'm self employed , has it's perks......but there's times I miss that Friday feeling ie payday 
I can go 2/3 months without being paid , silly things like all your mates sat in the beer garden on bank holidays and you'll be working
Saying all that though don't think I could work for a company again , you get used to being on your own
I'm self employed , has it's perks
......but there's times I miss that Friday feeling ie payday I can go 2/3 months without being paid , silly things like all your mates sat in the beer garden on bank holidays and you'll be working
Saying all that though don't think I could work for a company again , you get used to being on your own
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Depends on how often they will pay you......daily/weekly/monthly....or 60/90 days
I'm self employed , has it's perks......but there's times I miss that Friday feeling ie payday
I can go 2/3 months without being paid , silly things like all your mates sat in the beer garden on bank holidays and you'll be working
Saying all that though don't think I could work for a company again , you get used to being on your own
I'm self employed , has it's perks
......but there's times I miss that Friday feeling ie payday I can go 2/3 months without being paid , silly things like all your mates sat in the beer garden on bank holidays and you'll be working
Saying all that though don't think I could work for a company again , you get used to being on your own
cheers matey
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hi mate i aslo have my class 1 (and cpc card thingy) im currently working for a company local to me multi drop lot of london work and all hand ball in a sentance a load of shiiiiite.
anyway theres a lot of agency work around my area and there is the option of being self employed are you better off being self emp/or better off paye?
i no that you loose the perks of holiday pay/sick pay as some agencys offer this on the paye. whats the pros cons? hope that makes sense mate
anyway theres a lot of agency work around my area and there is the option of being self employed are you better off being self emp/or better off paye?
i no that you loose the perks of holiday pay/sick pay as some agencys offer this on the paye. whats the pros cons? hope that makes sense mate
http://www.novacontracting.co.uk/emp...emp_index.html
I'm employed so don't really know all the ins and outs but a guy at work used to do this and said its good if your on agency work. You can claim all sorts of expenses back and some agencies pay a higher rate as well.
I just don't like agencies, they can drop you one day to the next, security of being employed is what I like although I probably loose a bit on my hourly rate.
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I think you may mean the NOVA scheme or similar umbrella company and not going down the owner driver route?
http://www.novacontracting.co.uk/emp...emp_index.html
I'm employed so don't really know all the ins and outs but a guy at work used to do this and said its good if your on agency work. You can claim all sorts of expenses back and some agencies pay a higher rate as well.
I just don't like agencies, they can drop you one day to the next, security of being employed is what I like although I probably loose a bit on my hourly rate.
http://www.novacontracting.co.uk/emp...emp_index.html
I'm employed so don't really know all the ins and outs but a guy at work used to do this and said its good if your on agency work. You can claim all sorts of expenses back and some agencies pay a higher rate as well.
I just don't like agencies, they can drop you one day to the next, security of being employed is what I like although I probably loose a bit on my hourly rate.
thats interesing (claiming back millage so on) i dont mean owner driver no a few peeps that do/have done this and seems a rite pain in the arrrrrrrrsehole
05 May 2011, 08:03 PM
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you can claim mileage allowance to and from work.
meal allowance
clothes washing allowance
extra allowance if on a night away
you have to pay national insurance
you have to work for more than one employer,i think the maximum you can work for one is 6 months not certain though.
not much point going down the owner driver route unless you are very lucky to pick up a nice little contract.Most rates have been cut to s--t by the bigger companies.
meal allowance
clothes washing allowance
extra allowance if on a night away
you have to pay national insurance
you have to work for more than one employer,i think the maximum you can work for one is 6 months not certain though.
not much point going down the owner driver route unless you are very lucky to pick up a nice little contract.Most rates have been cut to s--t by the bigger companies.
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you can claim mileage allowance to and from work.
meal allowance
clothes washing allowance
extra allowance if on a night away
you have to pay national insurance
you have to work for more than one employer,i think the maximum you can work for one is 6 months not certain though.
not much point going down the owner driver route unless you are very lucky to pick up a nice little contract.Most rates have been cut to s--t by the bigger companies.
meal allowance
clothes washing allowance
extra allowance if on a night away
you have to pay national insurance
you have to work for more than one employer,i think the maximum you can work for one is 6 months not certain though.
not much point going down the owner driver route unless you are very lucky to pick up a nice little contract.Most rates have been cut to s--t by the bigger companies.
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You anywhere near an oil refinery? Wish I was, theres good money tanker driving if you get your ADR certificate.
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you can claim mileage allowance to and from work.
meal allowance
clothes washing allowance
extra allowance if on a night away
you have to pay national insurance
you have to work for more than one employer,i think the maximum you can work for one is 6 months not certain though.
not much point going down the owner driver route unless you are very lucky to pick up a nice little contract.Most rates have been cut to s--t by the bigger companies.
meal allowance
clothes washing allowance
extra allowance if on a night away
you have to pay national insurance
you have to work for more than one employer,i think the maximum you can work for one is 6 months not certain though.
not much point going down the owner driver route unless you are very lucky to pick up a nice little contract.Most rates have been cut to s--t by the bigger companies.
thx mate it seems you can claim millage allowance if on paye (i may be wrong but a lot of peeps on net seem to think that)
06 May 2011, 01:31 PM
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I thought thats probably what you meant. Self employed drivers have to comply with the WTD now so even harder for owner to drivers to make it pay without running dodgy. Thought about doing the umbrella thing but I just hate the way with agency work you can just get no work for a while and earn nothing.
You anywhere near an oil refinery? Wish I was, theres good money tanker driving if you get your ADR certificate.
You anywhere near an oil refinery? Wish I was, theres good money tanker driving if you get your ADR certificate.
no oil places near me mate but tankers driver on a good whack with the adr good times............bad times if some cuuuunt goes in to the back of you boooooooooooom
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you me both mate i looked in to it and it seems if you are paye on a agency (you have to work on more than 1 contract and not be on the same for more than 6 months) then you can claim back your business miles to from work (truck net is very useful)
i may be wrong but it seems you can.
much work around your area (only 50 miles up the road from me)
i may be wrong but it seems you can.
much work around your area (only 50 miles up the road from me)
06 May 2011, 05:06 PM
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Sro Bolasti i dropped offline.....ummm i would'nt go self emplyed. descent driving work like supermarket work (minimal haldling and good pay) only come via agency's and large ones at that.....i know "Grafters" work near the hoddesdon area, they are ok, and work a lot for Sainsburys, which is good driving work....
BTW a CPC is not a digi card, its a "certificate of professional competance" and is required by law to be able to be named on an operators licence, something that is also required by law if you want to be an owner driver. All HGV must be named on an operators licence, and that must be in a CPC holders name, so that the ministry know that you know what is required of a driver/ operator by law. Also it means i can sign peoples passports applications, like a Dr or person of trust...
BTW a CPC is not a digi card, its a "certificate of professional competance" and is required by law to be able to be named on an operators licence, something that is also required by law if you want to be an owner driver. All HGV must be named on an operators licence, and that must be in a CPC holders name, so that the ministry know that you know what is required of a driver/ operator by law. Also it means i can sign peoples passports applications, like a Dr or person of trust...
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Sro Bolasti i dropped offline.....ummm i would'nt go self emplyed. descent driving work like supermarket work (minimal haldling and good pay) only come via agency's and large ones at that.....i know "Grafters" work near the hoddesdon area, they are ok, and work a lot for Sainsburys, which is good driving work....
BTW a CPC is not a digi card, its a "certificate of professional competance" and is required by law to be able to be named on an operators licence, something that is also required by law if you want to be an owner driver. All HGV must be named on an operators licence, and that must be in a CPC holders name, so that the ministry know that you know what is required of a driver/ operator by law. Also it means i can sign peoples passports applications, like a Dr or person of trust...
BTW a CPC is not a digi card, its a "certificate of professional competance" and is required by law to be able to be named on an operators licence, something that is also required by law if you want to be an owner driver. All HGV must be named on an operators licence, and that must be in a CPC holders name, so that the ministry know that you know what is required of a driver/ operator by law. Also it means i can sign peoples passports applications, like a Dr or person of trust...
my bad bout the cpc i no what you mean (i have my drivers cpc card) done the 45 hours my previos post wasnt explained very well. i dont want to be a owner driver i no a few and nothing but a pain in the **** mate always chaseing money under cutting stress stress stress.
what sort of hourly rate are the agency on around your way. the reason why self emp appeals to me is the fact a lot of the agencies offer more per hour.
most the work/agencies i would be approacing is around the crick area massive industry around there that was one thing holding me back weighing up the cost of fuel there and back but it seems claiming it back could be possible
06 May 2011, 05:15 PM
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Sro Bolasti i dropped offline.....ummm i would'nt go self emplyed. descent driving work like supermarket work (minimal haldling and good pay) only come via agency's and large ones at that.....i know "Grafters" work near the hoddesdon area, they are ok, and work a lot for Sainsburys, which is good driving work....
BTW a CPC is not a digi card, its a "certificate of professional competance" and is required by law to be able to be named on an operators licence, something that is also required by law if you want to be an owner driver. All HGV must be named on an operators licence, and that must be in a CPC holders name, so that the ministry know that you know what is required of a driver/ operator by law. Also it means i can sign peoples passports applications, like a Dr or person of trust...
BTW a CPC is not a digi card, its a "certificate of professional competance" and is required by law to be able to be named on an operators licence, something that is also required by law if you want to be an owner driver. All HGV must be named on an operators licence, and that must be in a CPC holders name, so that the ministry know that you know what is required of a driver/ operator by law. Also it means i can sign peoples passports applications, like a Dr or person of trust...
My dad has a CPC through grand father's rights
A driver does need his Driver's CPC card to get on building sites. It's just a load of bollocks that you have to renew every five years! All common sense, but it does take something like 35 hours to do. All for a Drivers CPC card with your mug shot on it
06 May 2011, 05:19 PM
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I have never heard of claiming back anything on PAYE....??.....agency drivers are around £11 an hour around here, going up to £17 for weekends/ overtime etc......its one of those work the hours earn the money kinda of things....certainly i have a lot of agency rivers who have refused a £35k per yea full time job because they earn more on the agency....but work more hours....i signed off £1200 per week for some drivers....the money is there but you have to work the hoursand "manage" your POA to max out your WTD...
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And apparently, the CPC is equivalent of having a degree?
My dad has a CPC through grand father's rights
A driver does need his Driver's CPC card to get on building sites. It's just a load of bollocks that you have to renew every five years! All common sense, but it does take something like 35 hours to do. All for a Drivers CPC card with your mug shot on it
My dad has a CPC through grand father's rights
A driver does need his Driver's CPC card to get on building sites. It's just a load of bollocks that you have to renew every five years! All common sense, but it does take something like 35 hours to do. All for a Drivers CPC card with your mug shot on it
yes mate its defintly up there mate.
and your damm right about a load of bollocks just another way of taxing us (cost of the course so on) you suppose to do 7 hours (its a day off work i suppose
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And apparently, the CPC is equivalent of having a degree?
My dad has a CPC through grand father's rights
A driver does need his Driver's CPC card to get on building sites. It's just a load of bollocks that you have to renew every five years! All common sense, but it does take something like 35 hours to do. All for a Drivers CPC card with your mug shot on it
My dad has a CPC through grand father's rights
A driver does need his Driver's CPC card to get on building sites. It's just a load of bollocks that you have to renew every five years! All common sense, but it does take something like 35 hours to do. All for a Drivers CPC card with your mug shot on it
Grandads" rights are no longer recognised, any CPC not taken under the new regs is not recognised,a driver needs a DRIVERS CPC, which agreed is euro bollocks and another expense to the average joe.
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I have never heard of claiming back anything on PAYE....??.....agency drivers are around £11 an hour around here, going up to £17 for weekends/ overtime etc......its one of those work the hours earn the money kinda of things....certainly i have a lot of agency rivers who have refused a £35k per yea full time job because they earn more on the agency....but work more hours....i signed off £1200 per week for some drivers....the money is there but you have to work the hoursand "manage" your POA to max out your WTD...
1200 per week jesus when can i start? they must be doing a lot of weekend work to get up to that
35k a year would do me mate least you have the stability/guantee of a job as the agency can be a bit limbo....
06 May 2011, 05:26 PM
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trouble is £1200 during peak xmas weeks....£450 rest of time, sent home on 6 hrs, no work, next day 15 hrs no notice just do it.....its not all its cracked upto be imho...
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it does seem that way. i just want to try someing different pissed off with current job. tbh if got offered decent ful time perm pos would probably take that least if work for agency hopefully to a wider range of stuff trunking/shop delivers.........im just sick to the back teeth of mulitdrop 8 drops plus a day up stairs down stairs dealing with moody customers always complaining never turn up on time wankerz..........
glad i got that off my chest thats made me feel better
