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Old 10 March 2011, 12:37 PM
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Default Need a vaccum for rubble.

I have need of one.
When I say rubble, I don't mean anything larger than a 10p piece, just old mortar, sand, sawdust etc. It doesn't have to work on liquids.

We have a vacuum, but sucking stuff like that up is wasteful on the bags, plus they tear easily.

So what I want is something bagless. I thought about a Vax 6131, around £100 now. Or a Henry? The one Wickes sold for £50 seems to be deleted......

Any recommendations?
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Old 10 March 2011, 12:39 PM
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Dyson. Those things will suck up anything and no bags.
Old 10 March 2011, 12:43 PM
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agree on the dyson thing, no filters to be ripped apart
Old 10 March 2011, 12:58 PM
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I wrecked the wifes vax doing this

Cost me a new hoover due to laziness
Old 10 March 2011, 01:07 PM
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Our builder had a Henry type vacuum for such tasks, bigger model than the normal on though.
Old 10 March 2011, 01:44 PM
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Dysons don't like brick dust or plaster dust - cylone is not fast enough to keep it in the main dust can (experience ). So you'll need to wash the filters VERY regulaly (or you will damage the motor from overheating). Also bricks can lodge in the U-bend on the upright cleaner.

Better off using a traditional industrial wet+dry canister vac, with a generic cone main filter and a few pairs of washable sponge filter socks to protect the main filter (can make your own if you want with a bit of foam and glue - thats what I did). However this is a bit messy emptying and cleaning.

So the alternative is to use a few washable cloth dust bags instead.

As for which machine? Vax wet and dry canister vac is the best value for money, but has to use their own filters etc. They do sell cloth bags though

Numatic is ok, but they have weird filter/bag designs, so you can't use a cloth bags nor stick the filters in the washing machine.

Karcher wet and drys tend to use standard cone filters.

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Old 10 March 2011, 01:48 PM
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Iv got a aqua vac knock off for the workshop for this purpose , its done 10 years so far , all good as long as you dont ever bother sucking water
Old 10 March 2011, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Iv got a aqua vac knock off for the workshop for this purpose , its done 10 years so far , all good as long as you dont ever bother sucking water

Mine too: Its a "Shop-Vac"

Problem is I can't get spares for it in the UK (its American); Its currently using a Karcher pleated paper cone filter, which is wrapped with a Hepa filter bag (cut open) off an old electrolux...this allows me to use it to sand plaster with the power sander without getting plaster dust everywhere. For bricks and general stuff I just wrap the filter cone with some 1" thick sponge (all supported by elastic bands).

Its abodge, but it works a treat - don't need bags, and main the filter never clogs up.

I also have an antique Vax 2000, which I have cloth bags for, but I only use that for wet cleaning.
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Keep your dysons made by 4 year old girls on 2 pence an hour, this is what you need.

Old 10 March 2011, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
Keep your dysons made by 4 year old girls on 2 pence an hour, this is what you need.

Used to be made in the UK

Another thankyou to Mr Brown for making UK manufacturing uneconomical
Old 10 March 2011, 03:00 PM
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Wouldn't touch a Dyson, for both of the reasons given above.
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Henry is your friend. We got one when we were having our extension done, as the brick dust killed our Dysons dust filter.

We got a Henry during the builidng work and still use it now. The Dyson is in the garage gathering dust... might have to use the Henry to clean it!
Old 10 March 2011, 06:09 PM
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I've found some at Machine Mart with a take-off for a power tool so you can use it as a dust extraction too, sounds useful.
Old 10 March 2011, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Henry. Just take the bag out.

Dave
100% agreed (and so do a 99.99% of the worlds builders/decorators and contract cleaners)

if i had to commission some building work and some cvnt turned up with a Dyson I would just laugh before I told him (or her - for the EU crowd) to fvck off.

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Old 10 March 2011, 09:13 PM
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I'm on my second one of these in 15 years.
Used almost 5 days a week (decorator) and sucks up anything and everything I chuck at it.

For £59 it's a good bargain.

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...acuum-cleaners

(although I will concede the power lead could do with being a bit longer)
Old 10 March 2011, 09:17 PM
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Henry FTW!!
Old 10 March 2011, 09:43 PM
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Agree. Henry just take the bag out and keep the filter clean.
Old 10 March 2011, 10:04 PM
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As already said, Henry
(we use the green version of it, think it's exactly the same though) Take the bag out and give the filter a shake out from time to time

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Old 10 March 2011, 10:54 PM
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One 'c', two 'u's.


Old 10 March 2011, 11:20 PM
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Strange that, from pronunciation you'd always assume that it would be spelt 'vacume', but even to a dyslexic that doesn't look correct.

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Old 10 March 2011, 11:31 PM
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I got a Dyson from the tip for £20,just had to snap a bit of plastic off by the cylinder to allow for larger bits
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
One 'c', two 'u's.



Check out my first post, the title was a typo
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Strange that, from pronunciation you'd always assume that it would be spelt 'vacume', but even to a dyslexic that doesn't look correct.
No, we mis-pronounce it, it SHOULD be pronounced vacu'um, it's from the Latin "in vacuo" meaning in space, without air.
Old 11 March 2011, 03:58 PM
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The wickes ones are spot on.....think I paid £40 for mine
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Another vote for henry.

For the home miele, but i prefer sebo as they're much lighter for a start.
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
You forgot to mention they're sh!te as well ....

Even my in-laws have got rid of their Dyson for a Henry (in their late 70s).
Dave
Still using our Dysons

Three in total: DC04 in the office, DC07 at home and lightweight DC03 at my Gran's


DC04 is the best: British made, been kicked about, overfilled, dropped downstairs load of times and its fine. Just wash out the dust can with the hose pipe.

But a builder's vac, they do not make. Nor the small Henrys (we killed ours where I used to work...the bigger twin motor Numatics are far better for that type of use).

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Old 11 March 2011, 05:15 PM
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WTF's a vacuum... is that like a washing machine?
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
WTF's a vacuum... is that like a washing machine?


No good asking me. Apparently. Yet curiously, I seem to be the only one who knows how to empty it!


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