Vince Cable .....
27 January 2011, 07:45 PM
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Vince Cable .....
..... he is such a turncoat!!! 
I would have walked on glass to get him into power, given what he spouted before the Election!!
He is now defending destoying the Industrial Tribunals ..... he really has climbed into bed with the Tories - even talking like one now!!
It is the Tory way to dumb down and tread on the working man, it should NOT be the LibDem way!!
You are a disgrace Vince Cable and a great disappointment!!!!!!
I would have walked on glass to get him into power, given what he spouted before the Election!!
He is now defending destoying the Industrial Tribunals ..... he really has climbed into bed with the Tories - even talking like one now!!
It is the Tory way to dumb down and tread on the working man, it should NOT be the LibDem way!!
You are a disgrace Vince Cable and a great disappointment!!!!!!
27 January 2011, 07:50 PM
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..... he is such a turncoat!!!
I would have walked on glass to get him into power, given what he spouted before the Election!!
He is now defending destoying the Industrial Tribunals ..... he really has climbed into bed with the Tories - even talking like one now!!
It is the Tory way to dumb down and tread on the working man, it should NOT be the LibDem way!!
You are a disgrace Vince Cable and a great disappointment!!!!!!
I would have walked on glass to get him into power, given what he spouted before the Election!!
He is now defending destoying the Industrial Tribunals ..... he really has climbed into bed with the Tories - even talking like one now!!
It is the Tory way to dumb down and tread on the working man, it should NOT be the LibDem way!!
You are a disgrace Vince Cable and a great disappointment!!!!!!
27 January 2011, 07:51 PM
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Quote from the MorningStar:-
"Business Secretary Vince Cable nailed his colours to the mast of bad employers when he proposed measures that will make it more difficult for workers to take cases to employment tribunals.
His recognition that disputes in the workplace cost time and money, can affect morale, reduce productivity and hold back businesses ought to have been followed by a recommendation to ensure that workers' rights are respected by employers.
But, rather than that, he wants to make it more difficult for workers to seek legal redress on the spurious grounds that employers are less likely to take on new staff unless they have a blank cheque for their actions for two years.
It is a scandal that the Tories and their Lib Dem helpers are planning to double the qualifying period for a worker to access an employment tribunal, but it was almost inevitable, given the Labour government's point-blank refusal to improve workplace rights.
Rights should not be subject to a qualifying period. They should be applicable from day one of employment.
Cable claims that tribunal claims are too costly and time-consuming for small firms and accepts employers' claims that tribunals accept too many vexatious and frivolous cases.
This claim is not borne out by experience. Many cases are weeded out at an early stage, both by trade union and legal representatives. The idea that unions or solicitors simply take up cases irrespective of likelihood of success is risible.
If the government's proposal to charge workers for the privilege of lodging a tribunal case comes into force, this will undoubtedly result in fewer cases coming to judgement.
But that would not indicate that frivolous cases had been avoided.
It would mean that injustices were continuing because of government bias in favour of employers.
Both employers and government ought to examine the number of tribunal cases that have arisen in situations where a trade union is not recognised and workers feel that they have no other recourse than legal redress.
Many of the cases that find their way to an IT could be dealt with at an earlier stage if management recognised a trade union and was prepared to negotiate collective agreements and hear individual grievances presented by a shop steward or similar representative.
Employer representatives make much of the government's reference to the need for mediation via the conciliation service Acas.
Acas can often provide a useful forum for discussion and resolution of a problem, but its function is solely advisory.
Employers have the power to ignore Acas and to dismiss employees after designating them disruptive and, if the worker has not been employed continuously for two years, he or she will have no comeback.
Bob Crow's observation that what the bosses and their government want is the right to "hire and fire," unfortunately hits the nail on the head.
New Labour, Tories and Liberal Democrats have been united in support of the dogma of flexibility, which suggests that easing the ability of bosses to sack people makes it more likely that they will take on more workers.
It doesn't, but it does enable employers to ride roughshod over the rights of their staff in the interests of driving up profit levels.
Employment rights for workers in Britain are already the worst in Europe and are regularly criticised by the International Labour Organisation. They should not be further restricted"
"Business Secretary Vince Cable nailed his colours to the mast of bad employers when he proposed measures that will make it more difficult for workers to take cases to employment tribunals.
His recognition that disputes in the workplace cost time and money, can affect morale, reduce productivity and hold back businesses ought to have been followed by a recommendation to ensure that workers' rights are respected by employers.
But, rather than that, he wants to make it more difficult for workers to seek legal redress on the spurious grounds that employers are less likely to take on new staff unless they have a blank cheque for their actions for two years.
It is a scandal that the Tories and their Lib Dem helpers are planning to double the qualifying period for a worker to access an employment tribunal, but it was almost inevitable, given the Labour government's point-blank refusal to improve workplace rights.
Rights should not be subject to a qualifying period. They should be applicable from day one of employment.
Cable claims that tribunal claims are too costly and time-consuming for small firms and accepts employers' claims that tribunals accept too many vexatious and frivolous cases.
This claim is not borne out by experience. Many cases are weeded out at an early stage, both by trade union and legal representatives. The idea that unions or solicitors simply take up cases irrespective of likelihood of success is risible.
If the government's proposal to charge workers for the privilege of lodging a tribunal case comes into force, this will undoubtedly result in fewer cases coming to judgement.
But that would not indicate that frivolous cases had been avoided.
It would mean that injustices were continuing because of government bias in favour of employers.
Both employers and government ought to examine the number of tribunal cases that have arisen in situations where a trade union is not recognised and workers feel that they have no other recourse than legal redress.
Many of the cases that find their way to an IT could be dealt with at an earlier stage if management recognised a trade union and was prepared to negotiate collective agreements and hear individual grievances presented by a shop steward or similar representative.
Employer representatives make much of the government's reference to the need for mediation via the conciliation service Acas.
Acas can often provide a useful forum for discussion and resolution of a problem, but its function is solely advisory.
Employers have the power to ignore Acas and to dismiss employees after designating them disruptive and, if the worker has not been employed continuously for two years, he or she will have no comeback.
Bob Crow's observation that what the bosses and their government want is the right to "hire and fire," unfortunately hits the nail on the head.
New Labour, Tories and Liberal Democrats have been united in support of the dogma of flexibility, which suggests that easing the ability of bosses to sack people makes it more likely that they will take on more workers.
It doesn't, but it does enable employers to ride roughshod over the rights of their staff in the interests of driving up profit levels.
Employment rights for workers in Britain are already the worst in Europe and are regularly criticised by the International Labour Organisation. They should not be further restricted"
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27 January 2011, 08:17 PM
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As soon as Clegg, Cable et al realised that they could get one hand on power - completely unexpected - they couldn't believe their luck. And the rest was inevitable.
And to hell with the policies/'promises' - i.e. to hell with the electorate - if that was to be the 'price' (which I'm sure they're not losing any sleep over
) of obtaining said power (coalition compromises)...
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27 January 2011, 08:25 PM
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Did anyone expect different though??
As I've said before, they have been found out, big-time.
For years they promised the elctorate the moon, knowing they would never have to make good on their promises, but might get a few seats and a place at the trough.
Suddenly, they are in power.........and their empty promises have been shown to be just that.
With any luck, this should put them into a political wasteland for the foreseeable future. I REALLY look forward to Clegg having a "Portillo moment" courtsey of the good people of Sheffield.
And the students will come out agaisnt them en masse.
Could be the cleverst thing Cam-Moron has done so far.
As I've said before, they have been found out, big-time.
For years they promised the elctorate the moon, knowing they would never have to make good on their promises, but might get a few seats and a place at the trough.
Suddenly, they are in power.........and their empty promises have been shown to be just that.
With any luck, this should put them into a political wasteland for the foreseeable future. I REALLY look forward to Clegg having a "Portillo moment" courtsey of the good people of Sheffield.
And the students will come out agaisnt them en masse.
Could be the cleverst thing Cam-Moron has done so far.
27 January 2011, 08:59 PM
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..... he is such a turncoat!!!
I would have walked on glass to get him into power, given what he spouted before the Election!!
He is now defending destoying the Industrial Tribunals ..... he really has climbed into bed with the Tories - even talking like one now!!
It is the Tory way to dumb down and tread on the working man, it should NOT be the LibDem way!!
You are a disgrace Vince Cable and a great disappointment!!!!!!
I would have walked on glass to get him into power, given what he spouted before the Election!!
He is now defending destoying the Industrial Tribunals ..... he really has climbed into bed with the Tories - even talking like one now!!
It is the Tory way to dumb down and tread on the working man, it should NOT be the LibDem way!!
You are a disgrace Vince Cable and a great disappointment!!!!!!
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27 January 2011, 10:27 PM
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I'm a Socialist who wants to fund his own future by using my superior intellect .... a very admirable ambition, I'm sure you will agree!?
27 January 2011, 10:42 PM
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..... he is such a turncoat!!!
I would have walked on glass to get him into power, given what he spouted before the Election!!
He is now defending destoying the Industrial Tribunals ..... he really has climbed into bed with the Tories - even talking like one now!!
It is the Tory way to dumb down and tread on the working man, it should NOT be the LibDem way!!
You are a disgrace Vince Cable and a great disappointment!!!!!!
I would have walked on glass to get him into power, given what he spouted before the Election!!
He is now defending destoying the Industrial Tribunals ..... he really has climbed into bed with the Tories - even talking like one now!!
It is the Tory way to dumb down and tread on the working man, it should NOT be the LibDem way!!
You are a disgrace Vince Cable and a great disappointment!!!!!!
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