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Old 16 October 2010, 09:40 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451

No ****!! How long until UK politicians admit the same thing?!!

The sooner we get the message out that these immigrant communities are going to have to play by our rules or get shown the door, the better.
Old 16 October 2010, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451

No ****!! How long until UK politicians admit the same thing?!!

The sooner we get the message out that these immigrant communities are going to have to play by our rules or get shown the door, the better.
It will never happen over here,this place is full of soft c*nts
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How do you send back the 400,000 children of Muslim parents that were born between 2005 and 2009?
Old 16 October 2010, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
How do you send back the 400,000 children of Muslim parents that were born between 2005 and 2009?
With their parents.
Old 16 October 2010, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
How do you send back the 400,000 children of Muslim parents that were born between 2005 and 2009?

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Old 16 October 2010, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
How do you send back the 400,000 children of Muslim parents that were born between 2005 and 2009?
Foofing big ship
Old 16 October 2010, 09:59 PM
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There can only be one culture, the dominant one.

Liberals don't understand that, the duty of the state is to be culturally neutral, not to promote and 'protect' minority 'cultures' via funding, special laws, rights etc.

Parallel cultures does not work.
Old 16 October 2010, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
How do you send back the 400,000 children of Muslim parents that were born between 2005 and 2009?
Wave bacon at them ?
Old 16 October 2010, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
There can only be one culture, the dominant one.

I like your style!
Old 16 October 2010, 10:08 PM
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It's not simply multi-culturalism that's failed, diversity can and has enriched our lives via organic intergration. No; what has failed is an attempt to mix oil with water, to put a square peg in a round hole. Some cultures are simply so polarized that, when they meet, they clash.
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k

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Old 16 October 2010, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
Wave bacon at them ?
Old 16 October 2010, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
It's not simply multi-culturalism that's failed, diversity can and has enriched our lives via organic intergration. No; what has failed is an attempt to mix oil with water, to put a square peg in a round hole. Some cultures are simply so polarized that, when they meet, they clash.
if you are encouraging me to go out and spread my seed amongst the Polish community, I'm all for it but i draw the line at having my ******* smelling of curry.
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No. Polarized. For example, the motherland has embraced a millenia of theocracy whilst the host nation has been at the vanguard of liberal democracy for centuries. Hoist by our own petard?
Old 16 October 2010, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dogs B******s
is that a faint outline of a periscople just to the right of picture .. i thought something was missing from the photo
Old 17 October 2010, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
No. Polarized. For example, the motherland has embraced a millenia of theocracy whilst the host nation has been at the vanguard of liberal democracy for centuries. Hoist by our own petard?
eh?
Old 17 October 2010, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k

I like your style!
Don't be silly.

The dominant culture assimilates the weaker one, you can see it through history.
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There WILL be huge unrest in the future. Once it starts it will spread from Country to Country. The radicals (sadly) will win.

We will be the minority in our old Country. It will happen elsewhere too.
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Originally Posted by rossyboy
eh?
Islamism the ideology (as apposed to Islam the religion) is so fundamentally different to the Western (British, European, American, Canadian, Australian etc) poltical philosophy of liberal democracy that it's either one or the other. No nation state can support both systems of governance as they are in opposition.

'Hoist by our own petard' was a reference to the fact that the very tolerant, liberal nature of our ( British, The West) system has welcomed in a rival ideology that would seek to destroy it. I was highlighting the ironic flaw in the system I support.

I trust this is clear enough.
Old 17 October 2010, 09:39 AM
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Too many PC Plonkers hoping to gain votes by encouraging incontrolled immigration which we cannot afford.

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Old 17 October 2010, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by r32
We will be the minority in our old Country. It will happen elsewhere too.
When will this happen?

Currently about 86% of the UK population are white and British.

The nearest group to that are Indian immigrants at about 1.8% so let's look at religions instead where the nearest group are Muslims at 2.9%

So that means about 52 million people in this country are British and white and about 1.75 million are Muslim and about 1.1 million are Indian immgrants.

So either we need another 50.9 million Indians or another 50.25 million Muslims before we are in a minority.

Oh and that doesn't include the 3 million non British whites that I am sure you will be happy to claim as 'our own'

Somehow I can't see it happening really, can you?
Old 17 October 2010, 10:55 AM
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F1 fan; those stats don't stack up. Because IIRC there is as many Pakistani and Bangladeshi immigrants as there are Indian.

Or were you just referring to Indian which included the Pakistani and Bangladeshi regions?
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Some Indian immigrants are muslim.
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Some , true, I think most are actually Hindu. But on the other hand most Pakistani and Banglasdeshis are Muslim. So its important to differentiate between these regions, rather than stick them all in the same banding.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
F1 fan; those stats don't stack up. Because IIRC there is as many Pakistani and Bangladeshi immigrants as there are Indian.

Or were you just referring to Indian which included the Pakistani and Bangladeshi regions?
Nope. Last census and adjusted figures since say just under 1 million Pakistani and 250K Bangladeshi or were you adding them together (not sure why you would) in which case you are right.

Anyway surely you can't be going to suggest my figures are so far out (which they aren't of coiurse) as to suggest we are about to be in a minority any time soon.... oh yes this is SN NSR... of course you are
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Some Indian immigrants are muslim.
Yes and they are in the 2.9%... one is an ethnic metric, the other a religous one.... there can be overlap!!
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Above all, we cannot afford more immigration or we will start to fall off the edge into the sea! There is only so much population a country can afford before trouble starts.

Les
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Above all, we cannot afford more immigration or we will start to fall off the edge into the sea! There is only so much population a country can afford before trouble starts.

Les
Agreed Les, but I am just pointing out this whole 'we are going to be in a minority' is rubbish and people really need to just do some maths rather than read the Daily Mail.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan

Anyway surely you can't be going to suggest my figures are so far out (which they aren't of coiurse) as to suggest we are about to be in a minority any time soon.... oh yes this is SN NSR... of course you are


Steady on with the attitude . You post wasn't exactly clear (or referenced), so I questioned it. It happens sometimes

Of course, being "typical NSR", I assume that when a typical user of Scoobynet says "Indian" I assume you mean anyone from South Asia.


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