timmyajmy93wrx

iTrader: (27)

Hi All

got a slimline ps3, not been on it much & the other night had an update for the 3D playability.
Now couple of things are confusing me......

Is it for games only or will it play blu-ray 3D?

Also i only have a panasonic 42" plasma - obviously not 3D, so would any 3D game blu-ray work if i bought some of them glasses?

Or am i wasting my time & need a 3D tv!?

Cheers

EddScott

This - although I'd be tempted to say buying a 3D TV would be a waste of money too.

mr_D

iTrader: (12)

i think your wrong there mate.


we have some 3d films which we bought. good cartoon ones. ie pixar films. and we got the glasses on. and watched on our non 3d tv. 52" samsung and it was great. maybe better on a 3d tv. but it does work on a normal one.

tony de wonderful

I heard it's a bit of a gimmick but haven't tried 3D yet.

Does it use blue-ghey?

timmyajmy93wrx

iTrader: (27)

is that 3d played on a ps3? & what glasses have you got?

Ant

mr_D

iTrader: (12)

that was played on a blue ray player. tried my ps3 last night and it was good but only done it to try it out as it updated so i thought i would give it a go

the glasses vary for different films iirc. red & green, red & Blue, Green & orange. it all depends on the film and colour seperation.

Ant

So it was them red and green glasses? So not the new 3D technology?

mr_D

iTrader: (12)

one of the orginal question was
"so would any 3D game blu-ray work if i bought some of them glasses?"

and thats what i was answering.

timmyajmy93wrx

iTrader: (27)

cheers Mr D, so it does play 3d blu-rays an not just games. How do i find out about the glasses?

I am getting Gran Turismo 5 & it can be 3D enabled so i am hoping that i can buy glasses that suit to play in some sort of 3d attempt from my normal plasma?

Ant

No you need a 3d ready tv.

Ant

But you're giving the wrong advice the 3D games will need a 3d tv for the new 3d technology not the old blue and green glasses.

The 3d DVD with the green and blue glasses will work on any DVD player.

mr_D

iTrader: (12)

It has to do with how the different 3d formats work. The universal 3d format is anaglyph which uses those red and blue glasses. A 3d movie has two images of everything. One for the right eye and one for the left. In anaglyph all the left eye images are one color and all the right the other color which are red and blue as well. Then the red lens blends in with the red images and only the blue can get throw. Same with the blue lens, you can only see the red images. Since this 3d format uses color all color displays can use it.

Now with other 3d formats (new ones unless anaglyph type) you have a problem. Polarized 3d that they use in the theater has one polarized light wave for the left eye images and a different polarized light wave for all right eye images. Then the lenses block one light wave but not the other, so each eye only gets one image. In theaters they may have just one projector but it has two lenses with one projecting the left eye and one the right eye images at the same time. Then you have to have a special screen that can reflect the light back with the same polarization. Televisions can't do two different light waves, just not made to do it. There are televisions that can but they have to be made to do it.

The other 3d format is field sequential which uses shutter glasses that open and close. The one lens opens will the other one closes and they do this back and forth. When a lens opens the image for that eye will flash on screen. If the refresh rate of the television is under 100 hz (refreshing 100 time per second) then you will notice a flickering effect. Old plasma lcd television are 60 hz, rather slow. The flickering is bad. Now they can make them higher than that like 120 hz, even 600 hz. You just need a tv that can flash the images for each eye alternately at a fast enough rate and sync that up with the lenses.

See it is not as simple as just plopping a 3d dvd in any old dvd player on any old television and watching it

Dedrater

What antc and EddScott said.

What Mr D is doing is no longer considered 3D in any sense of the word, headacheville I think is what it's now called.

Dedrater

What antc and EddScott said.

What Mr D is doing is no longer considered 3D in any sense of the word, headacheville I think is what it's now called.

mr_D

iTrader: (12)

ok i see the intention of your statement, but at the end of the day im hardley incorrect in what im saying just different formats. so op will have to check which type of 3d is being purchased.

Dedrater

Go down to Currys/Comet and try 3DTV if you haven't already, I have to assume you have not else you wouldn't say you were incorrect.

Ant

I was just correcting you just like you quickly told edd he was wrong.

I understood what you was saying but you was giving the wrong answer to the op's original question.



A customer brought a 42" samsung 3D ready tv for £800 ,but IMO I wouldn't bother it'll only benefit with 3D projectors and 60" tv like I said just my opinion

mr_D

iTrader: (12)

im Hardly incorrect though am i???

3D does work (in different formats)

Ant

No your not wrong but to the op's question you was.

timmyajmy93wrx

iTrader: (27)

all i want to know/understand is will my ps3 play these 3d blu-rays on my panny NON 3d plasma if i buy some certain 3d glasses to watch it through.
If yes what glasses do i need, if no - then i cant, simples ( to me anyhow.)

I cant be the only person with a ps3 '3D' enabled wondering if somehow it will work on a normal TV to some degree?

Geezer

I must admit, I did wonder how to get it working myself. I downloaded the free 3D updates to 2 of my games, and I cannot see for love nor money how to get to show in 3D!

Not got a 3D TV, just wanted to see what it looked like.

Geezer

timmyajmy93wrx

iTrader: (27)

I have not got any games/blu-rays in 3d but now that the ps3 is 3d enabled i just wondered what it can actually do with normal tv's if anything? thats my question!
would love to be able to play gran turismo 5 in november with some sort of 3d just to try it out, but if its only if you have a 3d tv, then i wont be & i aint swapping my 'what hi-fi 5*' tv to get a 3d tv just to watch a few blu-rays an the odd game

joey_turbo

iTrader: (26)

I think Wipeout was the first game to use a 3D upgrade.
But yes, as mentioned, you will need one of the NEW 3D TV's for it to work.

timmyajmy93wrx

iTrader: (27)

thanks so i am still in 2D land, no probs. thanks for clearing it up

Ant

It was cleared up on post number 2

SRSport

And uncleared on post number 3