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Old 06 July 2010, 05:26 PM
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Default Musicians, Producers, DJ's and trance heads, i need your help :D

OK, so i have attempted to make a couple of songs over the last few days, one of which is trance. It is still in the very early stages and lacks a main synth, vocals (and a vocalist for that matter) percussion, effects, EQ and mastering and "oomph".

It is only 2 minutes long as i have just arranged it so i can let people get the idea. It has a quick intro, quick first breakdown, and then it kicks back in. the next step would be the main breakdown where the main synth develops and any vocals if i put some in.

So if you could have a listen and give me any feedback i would greatly appreciate it.

Oh and go easy because i am still a noob at this



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYb8fwgrkqw
Old 06 July 2010, 05:36 PM
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Now I am no expert,


Im thinking some distortion or other effects, pick up the tempo a little at some point and when the music pauses come back in a bit harder, perhaps a key change and some pitch bendy stuff, it needs to build as it is its very nice but doesnt go anywhere.
Old 06 July 2010, 06:22 PM
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Yeah I agree when It comes back In it does need more but at the moment I haven't created anything to create a big drop. So call it a foundation for a trance track. Hopefully within two weeks I will have something closer to a finished track.
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Sorry if it sounds harsh mate but its just soooooo boring. There just seems nothing to it, a slow and unadventurous beat and little melody.

Sorry
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Originally Posted by subaruturbo_18
OK, so i have attempted to make a couple of songs over the last few days, one of which is trance. It is still in the very early stages and lacks a main synth, vocals (and a vocalist for that matter) percussion, effects, EQ and mastering and "oomph".

It is only 2 minutes long as i have just arranged it so i can let people get the idea. It has a quick intro, quick first breakdown, and then it kicks back in. the next step would be the main breakdown where the main synth develops and any vocals if i put some in.

So if you could have a listen and give me any feedback i would greatly appreciate it.

Oh and go easy because i am still a noob at this



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYb8fwgrkqw

Hi m8 if you using Ableton Live use gating drums with bassline.In most tracks you don't need vocals(i never use vocals in my track,here is my profile on Soundcloud http://soundcloud.com/dreamcatcher-1 ),and try use more percussions(im using only from Sample CD Vengeance),try use gate noises with drums or bassline,distortion its great on leads or bassline,if you have pre-recorded vocals use Vocoder.Im using only Reason 4 with Ableton Live,Cubase 5(everything Re-Wire).
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Trance died in 2000, get with the times!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfSIcx1YgVE
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Trance died in 2000, get with the times!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfSIcx1YgVE

This is not Trance,but Hardstyle(which its similar to HC,Gabber http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXkHtMlxwDA),
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Sorry if it sounds harsh mate but its just soooooo boring. There just seems nothing to it, a slow and unadventurous beat and little melody.

Sorry
Well as I said, it has no leads nor any vocals, I just wanted to makesure that as a start it sounded ok. If you took most songs from today, removed the vocals and main leads It would too sound very boring. Thank you for your feedback.
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Trance died in 2000, get with the times!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfSIcx1YgVE
Agree - always found trance dull. The shufflers must have butter on their shoes, or do they wear those roller-trainer thingys?
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Originally Posted by jura11
Hi m8 if you using Ableton Live use gating drums with bassline.In most tracks you don't need vocals(i never use vocals in my track,here is my profile on Soundcloud http://soundcloud.com/dreamcatcher-1 ),and try use more percussions(im using only from Sample CD Vengeance),try use gate noises with drums or bassline,distortion its great on leads or bassline,if you have pre-recorded vocals use Vocoder.Im using only Reason 4 with Ableton Live,Cubase 5(everything Re-Wire).
Thanks for your reply mate, I'm using logic 8. I will have a look at your soundcloud when I get home from work. Percussion and main synths were my next steps, then on with the effects. Vocals would come afterwards if necessary.
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Originally Posted by jura11
This is not Trance,but Hardstyle(which its similar to HC,Gabber http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXkHtMlxwDA),
I didn't say it was Trance.
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Originally Posted by jura11
Hi m8 if you using Ableton Live use gating drums with bassline.In most tracks you don't need vocals(i never use vocals in my track,here is my profile on Soundcloud http://soundcloud.com/dreamcatcher-1 ),and try use more percussions(im using only from Sample CD Vengeance),try use gate noises with drums or bassline,distortion its great on leads or bassline,if you have pre-recorded vocals use Vocoder.Im using only Reason 4 with Ableton Live,Cubase 5(everything Re-Wire).
A little more life to it than the op's tune, but still boring as anything. There is no imagination in that tune. Sorry, but its just monotonous nonsense
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Where's chocolate o'briens input when you need it?
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
A little more life to it than the op's tune, but still boring as anything. There is no imagination in that tune. Sorry, but its just monotonous nonsense
What sort of music takes your interests dingdongler?


when ever i see your user name written on this forum i always get an urge to repeat it with an australian accent. Can anybody explain this?
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Originally Posted by subaruturbo_18
Where's chocolate o'briens input when you need it?
It's here... or will be later, got to go to work Chris.

Dude, pm me if you want and we'll chat Trance, as a couple of characters on here like to deliberately contest what I say about music regardless of what that opinion is
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Originally Posted by subaruturbo_18
What sort of music takes your interests dingdongler?


when ever i see your user name written on this forum i always get an urge to repeat it with an australian accent. Can anybody explain this?
Can't explain the latter question

In terms of dance music then its firstly dnb, jungle etc. Though not complicated there is something about the way the beats come together that make it exciting, fast and make you tap your feet (or make boxes with your hands)

I've always liked reggae, so when you combine the dnb with reggae/ragga you get jungle and thats why I like that. There is something about the sort of music that has been posted here that just makes me want to go to sleep, I just get the feeling that no real effort has been made, it sounds lazy.

To me, this kind of music (trance if thats what it is) has been a step backward in the evolution of dance music. I'm probably a lot older than you, and have followed dance music from about the time of original electro/breakbeat ie Africa Bambaata, Man Parrish etc.

Here are a few of my fave dnb tunes. Please try and listen to them elsewhere as you can't really hear the bassline or half the details on youtube. Without the bassline these tunes don't sound the way they are meant to, its like half the song is missing.
Do listen all the way through, because they all have long intro's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uckGAyQKf7E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALaBKnM6oAg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G_iMgcRARM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v84mJ...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfMtT...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1m09...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixL_jmGRDXY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7nbP...eature=related

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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Trance died in 2000, get with the times!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfSIcx1YgVE
They ought to do something about that patio in the first one, looks dangerously slippery!

Les
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