How does lowering the drink drive limit save lives?
16 June 2010, 11:05 AM
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How does lowering the drink drive limit save lives?
I'm not getting this, apparently 150lives will be saved by lowering the drink drive limit? How? This isn't going to make any difference to someone who was going to drink and drive anyway.
The only people i can see being affected by this are peeps like me who would sometimes go for a single pint after work with my mates. A pint doesn't impair my judgement but i could now lose my license over it.
The only people i can see being affected by this are peeps like me who would sometimes go for a single pint after work with my mates. A pint doesn't impair my judgement but i could now lose my license over it.
16 June 2010, 11:41 AM
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Is this bit true?
"Currently, anyone caught drink-driving faces a minimum ban of 12 months and a £5,000 fine."
£5K fine mandatory if you are guilty of DD?
As for the limit. I think the better method is enforcement and more police cars on the road. Random stops just gives the police powers to abuse IMO.
"Currently, anyone caught drink-driving faces a minimum ban of 12 months and a £5,000 fine."
£5K fine mandatory if you are guilty of DD?
As for the limit. I think the better method is enforcement and more police cars on the road. Random stops just gives the police powers to abuse IMO.
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16 June 2010, 12:02 PM
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Should these other factors carry stiff sentences as well?
16 June 2010, 12:08 PM
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Thats the maximum possible i believe.
Thing is Jamz , some of us out there are not 16 stone heffers - so 1 pint will impair judgement
Few years ago i would have thought this draconian but i was just thinking the other day it jus cannot be a coincidence that we are one of the few places in the world with a PUB culture and similarly a drink problem , nationally
of course other countries have cheap supermarket beer as well...
Thing is Jamz , some of us out there are not 16 stone heffers - so 1 pint will impair judgement
Few years ago i would have thought this draconian but i was just thinking the other day it jus cannot be a coincidence that we are one of the few places in the world with a PUB culture and similarly a drink problem , nationally
of course other countries have cheap supermarket beer as well...
16 June 2010, 12:25 PM
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I can't see it making a huge difference.
The people having one pint are not the ones mowing people down at zebra crossings are they?!
It's the ones who get tanked up and think they ate superman that are the problem.
If that type of drinker didn't care before, he sure as he'll won't give I fig when (if) it changes.
As for visiting the pub 'for a pint with the lads' is it always just one???
The people having one pint are not the ones mowing people down at zebra crossings are they?!
It's the ones who get tanked up and think they ate superman that are the problem.
If that type of drinker didn't care before, he sure as he'll won't give I fig when (if) it changes.
As for visiting the pub 'for a pint with the lads' is it always just one???
16 June 2010, 12:26 PM
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I can't see it making a huge difference.
The people having one pint are not the ones mowing people down at zebra crossings are they?!
It's the ones who get tanked up and think they ate superman that are the problem.
If that type of drinker didn't care before, he sure as he'll won't give I fig when (if) it changes.
As for visiting the pub 'for a pint with the lads' is it always just one???
The people having one pint are not the ones mowing people down at zebra crossings are they?!
It's the ones who get tanked up and think they ate superman that are the problem.
If that type of drinker didn't care before, he sure as he'll won't give I fig when (if) it changes.
As for visiting the pub 'for a pint with the lads' is it always just one???
16 June 2010, 12:31 PM
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I for one, fully support it 
we should have a zero limit,..
no need for roadside breathalyser equipment.
A simple " alcohol" smelt on the suspects breath, would be grounds enough
to warrant arrest, then the correct test carried out at the local nick.
Also refusal to take test, & failing a detailed test at the local nick, should
carry a lifetime ban.
Mart
we should have a zero limit,..
no need for roadside breathalyser equipment.
A simple " alcohol" smelt on the suspects breath, would be grounds enough
to warrant arrest, then the correct test carried out at the local nick.
Also refusal to take test, & failing a detailed test at the local nick, should
carry a lifetime ban.
Mart
16 June 2010, 12:33 PM
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16 June 2010, 12:35 PM
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Well nicotine for one having an effect on the driver especially first thing in a morning then there's the small matter of holding a burning thing in your hands while trying to drive. If mobile phones are banned then why not cigarettes. Surely the druggies can go without until they stop?
16 June 2010, 12:35 PM
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I for one, fully support it
we should have a zero limit,..
no need for roadside breathalyser equipment.
A simple " alcohol" smelt on the suspects breath, would be grounds enough
to warrant arrest, then the correct test carried out at the local nick.
Also refusal to take test, & failing a detailed test at the local nick, should
carry a lifetime ban.
Mart
we should have a zero limit,..
no need for roadside breathalyser equipment.
A simple " alcohol" smelt on the suspects breath, would be grounds enough
to warrant arrest, then the correct test carried out at the local nick.
Also refusal to take test, & failing a detailed test at the local nick, should
carry a lifetime ban.
Mart
16 June 2010, 12:40 PM
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The morning after a few drinks, can you even reliably tell if the reason you feel like crap is:
a) lack of sleep,
b) alcohol still present in your system,
c) hangover,
d) coming down with a cold?
Is it really appropriate to come down on one of these possible impairments like a ton of bricks, while more or less ignoring the others?
16 June 2010, 12:55 PM
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What's the point of this ... 150 lives saved is insignificant when the population is 60m. Leave it as is you loons 
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol...itehall_Report
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The limit isn't based on pints for the very reason that diff people will be effected in diff ways!
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol...itehall_Report
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The limit isn't based on pints for the very reason that diff people will be effected in diff ways!
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16 June 2010, 01:05 PM
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16 June 2010, 01:22 PM
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If smoking is banned in cars then so should everything else thats a distraction
Like changing radio channel/volume etc
The person drinking a cup of coffee/tea in the mornings
Drinking fizzy drinks
Eating sweets
Eating anything
I don't smoke by the way.
As for the drink driving rule
I think its fair enough to be honest.
You boys all talk about a pint not affecting you
We'll what if you've not had much to eat, you've been to work early(say you got there at 7.30am and been up since 6am and its not 10pm)
I suspect 1 pint may we'll affect you alright
The limit now is for the morning after
Say you went out after work and had 6 pints or so, get home - in bed by 12 then up for 6am
The new limit would most likely let you keep your license.
Anyway - a drink/driver will still drink/drive regardless what the limit it.
I actually know someone that would regulary take a load of pints then drive home.
And to define a "load of pints" - this guy wouldn't think twice after 10 or 12 pints
16 June 2010, 01:26 PM
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What you are all missing is that the 'lives saved' is not the point here. The point is that it will *harmonise* EU drink/drive limits after some EU dictat from several years ago. But you won't find the *EU* mentioned in news reports about this .....
What did CMD say? 'In Europe but not ruled by Europe'? B*llux! Just rolling over as usual.
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What did CMD say? 'In Europe but not ruled by Europe'? B*llux! Just rolling over as usual.
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16 June 2010, 01:32 PM
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Double the limit I say and let people enjoy themselves for a change. But only after 11 at night when old ladies and kids should be off the road,
They should also be made to have a sign on back of car with BP in large letters (Bit Pissed)
dl
They should also be made to have a sign on back of car with BP in large letters (Bit Pissed)
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16 June 2010, 01:33 PM
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Just the goverment and those employed by the govmerant making noise and trying to justify their roles IMHO. Good timing though with the world cup on chamges of people DD will be higher than normal.
Cant see of any evidence how reducing the DD limit will make any differance at all.
Would like to know the figures of those caught driving whilst on on drugs compared to drink. I'm pretty certain which will be the higher of the two
Richard
Cant see of any evidence how reducing the DD limit will make any differance at all.
Would like to know the figures of those caught driving whilst on on drugs compared to drink. I'm pretty certain which will be the higher of the two
Richard