Buying CAT D
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Buying CAT D
i've seen a car for sale which is immaculate and cheap but it's listed as a CAT D
this is a normal hatch not a boy racer thashed model and the seller says it was cosmetic damage only, would it be a problem come trade in time or should it be avoided?
is there any way to get a CAT D taken off the register as i thought if it was inspected you could pay to have it removed, is this true?
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this is a normal hatch not a boy racer thashed model and the seller says it was cosmetic damage only, would it be a problem come trade in time or should it be avoided?
is there any way to get a CAT D taken off the register as i thought if it was inspected you could pay to have it removed, is this true?
cheers
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you generally won't loose - buy it cheaper, then sell it on cheaper. The problem lies with trying to sell it. If it's an older car I wouldn't worry as much, but a newish car I'd personally avoid. Not sure about having a Cat D removed, never heard of this.
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do some proper value reasearch ie used values, not unless your buying on the strap
id be put off on nearly new cars to be honest, id happily buy the wife one cheap and repair it, howver i wouldnt want to be selling one
however it depoends on the car, if were talking high end sports then thats different its easily sold, if its a run of the mil ford mondeo i wouldnt bother
id be put off on nearly new cars to be honest, id happily buy the wife one cheap and repair it, howver i wouldnt want to be selling one
however it depoends on the car, if were talking high end sports then thats different its easily sold, if its a run of the mil ford mondeo i wouldnt bother
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I think there is confusion about having Cat C VIC checked and getting a "cat" removed.
its a status marker, there is no legal way to remove it, so its with the car for life.
I know plenty of people who sell C's and D's all the time with no issues. As above, buy cheap, sell cheap. Dealers will take them but at a mark down. However car buyers etc will usually eat them up.
Re the damage. For a 2009 car to have been graded a D for "cosmetic" damage, that must have been pretty extensive none the less. So something tells me he was lying or the assessor was on drugs lol.
As long as I know what the damage was, and where I am looking to check repairs, C's and D's dont worry me.
its a status marker, there is no legal way to remove it, so its with the car for life.
I know plenty of people who sell C's and D's all the time with no issues. As above, buy cheap, sell cheap. Dealers will take them but at a mark down. However car buyers etc will usually eat them up.
Re the damage. For a 2009 car to have been graded a D for "cosmetic" damage, that must have been pretty extensive none the less. So something tells me he was lying or the assessor was on drugs lol.
As long as I know what the damage was, and where I am looking to check repairs, C's and D's dont worry me.
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indeed as i said however in my eyes quite well price reflected, but int he real world they sell just as good, i tonight sold a cat d 2001 206 convertible for £2400, pretty car and colour tho low miles.
i think sometimes its the public getting that feeling of there getting a bargain, and we know everyone loves a bargain, in my view unless it was something tasty i wouldnt buy something that late damaged
just my humble opinion though
i think sometimes its the public getting that feeling of there getting a bargain, and we know everyone loves a bargain, in my view unless it was something tasty i wouldnt buy something that late damaged
just my humble opinion though
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i've seen a car for sale which is immaculate and cheap but it's listed as a CAT D
this is a normal hatch not a boy racer thashed model and the seller says it was cosmetic damage only, would it be a problem come trade in time or should it be avoided?
is there any way to get a CAT D taken off the register as i thought if it was inspected you could pay to have it removed, is this true?
cheers
this is a normal hatch not a boy racer thashed model and the seller says it was cosmetic damage only, would it be a problem come trade in time or should it be avoided?
is there any way to get a CAT D taken off the register as i thought if it was inspected you could pay to have it removed, is this true?
cheers
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I think there is confusion about having Cat C VIC checked and getting a "cat" removed.
its a status marker, there is no legal way to remove it, so its with the car for life.
I know plenty of people who sell C's and D's all the time with no issues. As above, buy cheap, sell cheap. Dealers will take them but at a mark down. However car buyers etc will usually eat them up.
Re the damage. For a 2009 car to have been graded a D for "cosmetic" damage, that must have been pretty extensive none the less. So something tells me he was lying or the assessor was on drugs lol.
As long as I know what the damage was, and where I am looking to check repairs, C's and D's dont worry me.
its a status marker, there is no legal way to remove it, so its with the car for life.
I know plenty of people who sell C's and D's all the time with no issues. As above, buy cheap, sell cheap. Dealers will take them but at a mark down. However car buyers etc will usually eat them up.
Re the damage. For a 2009 car to have been graded a D for "cosmetic" damage, that must have been pretty extensive none the less. So something tells me he was lying or the assessor was on drugs lol.
As long as I know what the damage was, and where I am looking to check repairs, C's and D's dont worry me.
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Remember too that a higher value on a newer car means that extensive damage can be graded lower. By this Im suggesting that whilst a 10+year old car will only need a scratcvh to be written off, a new car can be relatively heavily damaged and still only be written off due to a 'one year' replacement clause in the policy.
With a nearly new car a D categorisation could have required a good pull on a jig and new structural panels.
Theres a lot more to understanding salvage and categorisation than looking aT THE abiS WEBSITE AND COPYING AND PASTING THE explanation.....
With a nearly new car a D categorisation could have required a good pull on a jig and new structural panels.
Theres a lot more to understanding salvage and categorisation than looking aT THE abiS WEBSITE AND COPYING AND PASTING THE explanation.....
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There is a company that does the inspection for the register and itg was £200 7 years ago so I have no idea on what it is now. If your considering this test you have to know that the repair has been done to an impressive standard as if there is any thickness of filler used it will fail instantly. They expect the car to be in showroom condition and once done it supposedly lets you trade the vehicle in and if you have an insurance claim they will pay top dollar instead of say half price.
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I bought what I was lead to believe, a Cat D. Had lots of trouble getting it right as there were some unresolved issues with it. It was an Impreza STi6 Type R Ltd by the way.
When it came to selling it I never considered all the problems I'd get trying to get rid. I felt like a criminal answering all the **** questions from each tyre kicker coming around. And in the end, the guy who purchased decided to HPi anyway and found it was actually a CAT C!!
If it's nothing special then I would say look with your eyes open. Perhaps double check with HPi too..
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When it came to selling it I never considered all the problems I'd get trying to get rid. I felt like a criminal answering all the **** questions from each tyre kicker coming around. And in the end, the guy who purchased decided to HPi anyway and found it was actually a CAT C!!
If it's nothing special then I would say look with your eyes open. Perhaps double check with HPi too..
Nick
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well you bought it knowing it was damaged and tried to sell it bit telling so asking for a pain int he ****
if there cheap enough you can resell them stating prev light damaged or stolen recovered etc
if there cheap enough you can resell them stating prev light damaged or stolen recovered etc
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Cat D, no problem at all ive had loads of cat D,s
cat C I wouldnt touch, I bought a 55 plate WRX Wagon 12K miles in 2007 that was cat D that had a new carpet set and 2 seat bases the work was carried out by Subaru Main dealer and had the bill and a statement from the dealer that was the only work carried out by them as per the insurers damage report, so not all cat Ds have had lots of damage, theres also lots of other considerations ie towing, storage charges, etc
my mate bought a cat D SL600 18mths old that had a very minor £600 of bits crash in France the charges to get it back were about £4500, as long as you or someone who Knows has a good look at the repairs and they are sound go for it,
cat C I wouldnt touch, I bought a 55 plate WRX Wagon 12K miles in 2007 that was cat D that had a new carpet set and 2 seat bases the work was carried out by Subaru Main dealer and had the bill and a statement from the dealer that was the only work carried out by them as per the insurers damage report, so not all cat Ds have had lots of damage, theres also lots of other considerations ie towing, storage charges, etc
my mate bought a cat D SL600 18mths old that had a very minor £600 of bits crash in France the charges to get it back were about £4500, as long as you or someone who Knows has a good look at the repairs and they are sound go for it,
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I was very tempted with a Cat D when I changed cars last summer - it was a 58-2008 325d M-Sport for £19k, whereas the market rate for a non-cat D would've been £24-25k, but decided against it in the end as it seemed like a lot of cash for a previously damaged car, and glad I did.
Sort of issues you might encounter are uneven tyre wear, poor quality paint on repaired panels, poor panel gaps - but on the other hand you could be lucky and get something which is absolutely fine and runs perfectly.
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A common misconception. The VIC is to establish that the car is honest, and nothing else.
Autolign (used, and perhaps still do) check the quality of repairs, but the case for using them disappeared with their new contract 15+ years ago.
Autolign (used, and perhaps still do) check the quality of repairs, but the case for using them disappeared with their new contract 15+ years ago.
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Everything about Autolign HERE. They used to be able to remove vehicles from all registers altogether, but they now move them to a 'Condition Inspected' register, as I mentioned in aprevious post.
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