Geniune question about the forthcoming election and voting....
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Geniune question about the forthcoming election and voting....
OK, to say that politics and voting etc are not my "thing" would be an understatement.
I am a prime example of Mr Apathy. Suffice to say that my concerns with life tend to be focused at home rather than as a general country-wide aspect.
Anyhoo, I AM trying to be more interested this time around. Really.
However, I have hit a stumbling block.
Let's take it as read that each party actually has differing policies on how they would run the country and get us out of the ****.
I can understand and differentiate between what each party has to offer.
My MAJOR concern is this - I don't believe a single thing anything of them say.
So with this in mind, how would you vote? Why would you vote for someone/thing you don't believe?
Do you choose the best of a bad bunch?
My local elections are somewhat pointless due to the OVERWHELMING majority a certain party has. This has been the same since year dot.
What would you do in this situation?
Or do you think "**** it" and go down the pub at the time of voting?
Dan
I am a prime example of Mr Apathy. Suffice to say that my concerns with life tend to be focused at home rather than as a general country-wide aspect.
Anyhoo, I AM trying to be more interested this time around. Really.
However, I have hit a stumbling block.
Let's take it as read that each party actually has differing policies on how they would run the country and get us out of the ****.
I can understand and differentiate between what each party has to offer.
My MAJOR concern is this - I don't believe a single thing anything of them say.
So with this in mind, how would you vote? Why would you vote for someone/thing you don't believe?
Do you choose the best of a bad bunch?
My local elections are somewhat pointless due to the OVERWHELMING majority a certain party has. This has been the same since year dot.
What would you do in this situation?
Or do you think "**** it" and go down the pub at the time of voting?
Dan
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The 3 maijn parties all have the SAME policies. They differ only in minute detail. I mean, £6BN in savings is being argued about when the government is planning on spending £170BN MORE than it gets in revenue this year!!!!
Take a look at http://autonomousmind.wordpress.com/...e-eu/#comments for one area where the politicians aren't talking about major costs for ALL of us. They're supposed to be 'listening' to the electorate, i.e. us, but where did 'we' ask for all these extra energy costs? Where's the referendum on EU membership? Where's the discussions about immigration?
Lying toe-rags the lot of them.
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I think you should vote which gives you a right to complain later!
Th best bet is to look at the Party's manifestos as they tend to stick to those during their term of office (I did say tend).
Or vote for a Party even knowing they don't stand a snowball's such as the Greens or UKIP as it does demonstrate that they do have support. Is your MP any good do you know? It's also about help with local issues. dl
Th best bet is to look at the Party's manifestos as they tend to stick to those during their term of office (I did say tend).
Or vote for a Party even knowing they don't stand a snowball's such as the Greens or UKIP as it does demonstrate that they do have support. Is your MP any good do you know? It's also about help with local issues. dl
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Whatever you do, you must vote!
Think about whether you want the party who look like they have turned the country around - Labour.
Or you can risk everything by voting for an Eton Boy who has a personal wealth of £15million and not a clue about real life and the man in the street.
Or, you could waste it - but vote anyway - by voting LibDem (could be a tactical vote to keep the useless Tories out!)
Think about whether you want the party who look like they have turned the country around - Labour.
Or you can risk everything by voting for an Eton Boy who has a personal wealth of £15million and not a clue about real life and the man in the street.
Or, you could waste it - but vote anyway - by voting LibDem (could be a tactical vote to keep the useless Tories out!)
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Not going to rise to the pro-any party stuff Pete.
And I don't HAVE to vote - xyz fought etc to give me the right to vote. Doesn't necessarily mean I have to though......
And this is the argument for the apathetic voter.....
Where to turn!!
Dan
And I don't HAVE to vote - xyz fought etc to give me the right to vote. Doesn't necessarily mean I have to though......
And this is the argument for the apathetic voter.....
Where to turn!!
Dan
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I was thinking about this last night actually and the whole Lib Dem angle, and for once it makes sense. A hung parliment could be interesting by putting a proper mix up of people in power. Lib Dem + Tories or something.
The only way you will get anything near "change" it to take total power away from one of the big 2.
Tempted to vote Lib Dem this time around, the local guy has an honest face lol
The only way you will get anything near "change" it to take total power away from one of the big 2.
Tempted to vote Lib Dem this time around, the local guy has an honest face lol
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OK, to say that politics and voting etc are not my "thing" would be an understatement.
I am a prime example of Mr Apathy. Suffice to say that my concerns with life tend to be focused at home rather than as a general country-wide aspect.
Anyhoo, I AM trying to be more interested this time around. Really.
However, I have hit a stumbling block.
Let's take it as read that each party actually has differing policies on how they would run the country and get us out of the ****.
I can understand and differentiate between what each party has to offer.
My MAJOR concern is this - I don't believe a single thing anything of them say.
So with this in mind, how would you vote? Why would you vote for someone/thing you don't believe?
Do you choose the best of a bad bunch?
My local elections are somewhat pointless due to the OVERWHELMING majority a certain party has. This has been the same since year dot.
What would you do in this situation?
Or do you think "**** it" and go down the pub at the time of voting?
Dan
I am a prime example of Mr Apathy. Suffice to say that my concerns with life tend to be focused at home rather than as a general country-wide aspect.
Anyhoo, I AM trying to be more interested this time around. Really.
However, I have hit a stumbling block.
Let's take it as read that each party actually has differing policies on how they would run the country and get us out of the ****.
I can understand and differentiate between what each party has to offer.
My MAJOR concern is this - I don't believe a single thing anything of them say.
So with this in mind, how would you vote? Why would you vote for someone/thing you don't believe?
Do you choose the best of a bad bunch?
My local elections are somewhat pointless due to the OVERWHELMING majority a certain party has. This has been the same since year dot.
What would you do in this situation?
Or do you think "**** it" and go down the pub at the time of voting?
Dan
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I understand your feelings.
I think you have to look to what sort of government you want in the future.
If you want a totalitarian style with effectively a police state run by those over the water in such a way that you can no longer do anything to affect your own future since your vote no longer will be of any importance, and you don't mind being governed by the unelected who will see to it it that they will always hold power in the future appointing their friends into power, and what is called a government of our own which consists of an administration in name only which will do exactly what they are told by the commission in exchange for incredibly highly paid jobs by the commission, then you should vote for Flash and his mates-those that he has got left that is! You soon would not have to worry any more because by then our voting will be considered unecessary!
Les
I think you have to look to what sort of government you want in the future.
If you want a totalitarian style with effectively a police state run by those over the water in such a way that you can no longer do anything to affect your own future since your vote no longer will be of any importance, and you don't mind being governed by the unelected who will see to it it that they will always hold power in the future appointing their friends into power, and what is called a government of our own which consists of an administration in name only which will do exactly what they are told by the commission in exchange for incredibly highly paid jobs by the commission, then you should vote for Flash and his mates-those that he has got left that is! You soon would not have to worry any more because by then our voting will be considered unecessary!
Les
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As Pete says, you really should vote anyway. The only bit of power we have at the moment is our vote and it is surprisingly powerful as you will see by the posturing by the politico's leading up to the election.
It was hard fought for in the past and if you ignore it, we will lose it eventually and we are then putty in the hands of those in power.
Not voting will not prove a thing of any use and is leading into the hands of those who want sheer domination of us all.
Les
It was hard fought for in the past and if you ignore it, we will lose it eventually and we are then putty in the hands of those in power.
Not voting will not prove a thing of any use and is leading into the hands of those who want sheer domination of us all.
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I understand your feelings.
I think you have to look to what sort of government you want in the future.
If you want a totalitarian style with effectively a police state run by those over the water in such a way that you can no longer do anything to affect your own future since your vote no longer will be of any importance, and you don't mind being governed by the unelected who will see to it it that they will always hold power in the future appointing their friends into power, and what is called a government of our own which consists of an administration in name only which will do exactly what they are told by the commission in exchange for incredibly highly paid jobs by the commission, then you should vote for Flash and his mates-those that he has got left that is! You soon would not have to worry any more because by then our voting will be considered unecessary!
Les
I think you have to look to what sort of government you want in the future.
If you want a totalitarian style with effectively a police state run by those over the water in such a way that you can no longer do anything to affect your own future since your vote no longer will be of any importance, and you don't mind being governed by the unelected who will see to it it that they will always hold power in the future appointing their friends into power, and what is called a government of our own which consists of an administration in name only which will do exactly what they are told by the commission in exchange for incredibly highly paid jobs by the commission, then you should vote for Flash and his mates-those that he has got left that is! You soon would not have to worry any more because by then our voting will be considered unecessary!
Les
The problem I have is, I have heard nothing yet, that gives me confidence in any of them.
This Country is in a mess in all aspects.
Hundreds of ludicrous laws, chipping away at our freedom and rights. Taxation by the shed load and more to come.
I could go on
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Yes I know Lee, the only thing I can say is that we know first hand what we get from from the present load of self serving plonkers and i have not been impressed!
I sincerely hope that the others will come out with a full run down of their policies as the election run up continues. That is vitally important and we are at the stage where NL can't really steal their policies any more.
Les
I sincerely hope that the others will come out with a full run down of their policies as the election run up continues. That is vitally important and we are at the stage where NL can't really steal their policies any more.
Les
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Please bear in mind one simple truth ...... if it could be done, it has been!
If the Tories had the answers then they would have done it in the years they were in power .... people forget what a shambles we were in 1997!!
If Labour had the answers they would have done it too!!
I very much believe that no Party sets out to destroy the UK or Economy or the fabric of society ....... no, it's the public which does that.
If you haven't made lots of money and a success of yourself, if you wanted to be, you cannot fault anyone but yourself .... the framework is there to work with ..... millionaires are made every week - they can do it, you can!
Nah, people who blame the Government do so because they can't be arsed to do it for themselves and want to blame someone ...... the successful never wait for the government to do something for them - they make it happen for themselves.
That's the painful truth .....
Pick who you fancy, but don't expect whoever to do anything for you - do it yourself!
Sermon over ...
If the Tories had the answers then they would have done it in the years they were in power .... people forget what a shambles we were in 1997!!
If Labour had the answers they would have done it too!!
I very much believe that no Party sets out to destroy the UK or Economy or the fabric of society ....... no, it's the public which does that.
If you haven't made lots of money and a success of yourself, if you wanted to be, you cannot fault anyone but yourself .... the framework is there to work with ..... millionaires are made every week - they can do it, you can!
Nah, people who blame the Government do so because they can't be arsed to do it for themselves and want to blame someone ...... the successful never wait for the government to do something for them - they make it happen for themselves.
That's the painful truth .....
Pick who you fancy, but don't expect whoever to do anything for you - do it yourself!
Sermon over ...
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Please bear in mind one simple truth ...... if it could be done, it has been!
If the Tories had the answers then they would have done it in the years they were in power .... people forget what a shambles we were in 1997!!
If Labour had the answers they would have done it too!!
I very much believe that no Party sets out to destroy the UK or Economy or the fabric of society ....... no, it's the public which does that.
If you haven't made lots of money and a success of yourself, if you wanted to be, you cannot fault anyone but yourself .... the framework is there to work with ..... millionaires are made every week - they can do it, you can!
Nah, people who blame the Government do so because they can't be arsed to do it for themselves and want to blame someone ...... the successful never wait for the government to do something for them - they make it happen for themselves.
That's the painful truth .....
Pick who you fancy, but don't expect whoever to do anything for you - do it yourself!
Sermon over ...
If the Tories had the answers then they would have done it in the years they were in power .... people forget what a shambles we were in 1997!!
If Labour had the answers they would have done it too!!
I very much believe that no Party sets out to destroy the UK or Economy or the fabric of society ....... no, it's the public which does that.
If you haven't made lots of money and a success of yourself, if you wanted to be, you cannot fault anyone but yourself .... the framework is there to work with ..... millionaires are made every week - they can do it, you can!
Nah, people who blame the Government do so because they can't be arsed to do it for themselves and want to blame someone ...... the successful never wait for the government to do something for them - they make it happen for themselves.
That's the painful truth .....
Pick who you fancy, but don't expect whoever to do anything for you - do it yourself!
Sermon over ...
well put
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All the stuff Labour says they're going to do if they get re-elected, I wonder why they're not doing it already? Would never vote for them, the party don't exactly have a good track record on not messing the country up. Hate the fact the plonker who is in charge of representing us to the world, is like the class geek. How can we be taken seriously?
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Please bear in mind one simple truth ...... if it could be done, it has been!
If the Tories had the answers then they would have done it in the years they were in power .... people forget what a shambles we were in 1997!!
If Labour had the answers they would have done it too!!
I very much believe that no Party sets out to destroy the UK or Economy or the fabric of society ....... no, it's the public which does that.
If you haven't made lots of money and a success of yourself, if you wanted to be, you cannot fault anyone but yourself .... the framework is there to work with ..... millionaires are made every week - they can do it, you can!
Nah, people who blame the Government do so because they can't be arsed to do it for themselves and want to blame someone ...... the successful never wait for the government to do something for them - they make it happen for themselves.
That's the painful truth .....
Pick who you fancy, but don't expect whoever to do anything for you - do it yourself!
Sermon over ...
If the Tories had the answers then they would have done it in the years they were in power .... people forget what a shambles we were in 1997!!
If Labour had the answers they would have done it too!!
I very much believe that no Party sets out to destroy the UK or Economy or the fabric of society ....... no, it's the public which does that.
If you haven't made lots of money and a success of yourself, if you wanted to be, you cannot fault anyone but yourself .... the framework is there to work with ..... millionaires are made every week - they can do it, you can!
Nah, people who blame the Government do so because they can't be arsed to do it for themselves and want to blame someone ...... the successful never wait for the government to do something for them - they make it happen for themselves.
That's the painful truth .....
Pick who you fancy, but don't expect whoever to do anything for you - do it yourself!
Sermon over ...
Les
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