wrighty338

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im stuck in an IT job at the min, 3 and a half years and im bored of sat at a desk doing a non rewarding job 12 hours a day - ok its paying for the impreza but its nowhere near enough to get my own place on

is there any good trades to get into at the minute? that will get me a good wage for a house etc in a few years time. im 22 so an apprenticeships outta the question as i cant afford to take a pay cut what so ever

quite open minded and willing to learn anything really, looking for a practical job where i can see an end product after a days work!

plumbing? people always need water right? and seems quite easy
sparky? people always need electric too? bit harder in my eyes and you can kill people with electric id love to do cars up all day but i aint got the patience to fix them so id make no mechanic!

alcazar

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There are few, if ANY trades you can get into without doing SOME sort of apprenticeship. Pay, while so doing, is abysmal, and many are Lying Labour "mock" apprenticeships which require you to find someone to take you into their employ from the second year onwards, or you can't continue.

Even when you ARE trained, you won't be on huge money, plus there is less and less work available in the UK now: my eldest is a plater/welder, time served, and has to work in Holland because THEY have work the UK doesn't.

He hates working away.

superstar1

Surprised you want out of IT, always asumed that's where everything was at nowadays.
However if you are looking for something different i would'nt right off your prospects regarding an apprenticeship. At 22 your just a young pup, make some enquiries at your local college or occupational training provider.

Timwinner

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As far as I can tell in the UK to the two failsafe trades now days are
1, Financial advisor (even when people are skint they have pensions, mortgages etc)
2, Law, Thats what I do and there is a never ending supply of legal issues to deal with.

Myles

iTrader: (40)

Join the RAF, ICT Tech would be right up your street.

salsa-king

hhhhhhhhmmmmmmm, any building trade in the UK at the mo is risky.

too many unemployed are put on 6month training courses in the 'TRADE' jobs... come out knowing nothing but want full pay.

Where are all these job places for them??

lol


why not go into painting and decorating, everyone can do it and its easy and you don't need to learn anything at college to get quailified.

lol

davyboy

Work hard, get promoted, get in to management.

Jamz3k

Be careful what you do Wrighty, being "bored" of a job isn't always a good excuse for jacking it in. I did this 2years ago and quite frankly have been going from pillar to post since.

If you're going to do it right, i'd say your in for a good bit of rough before it gets smooth as an apprentice generally gets **** poor wages so say goodbye to luxuries for a while like your car.

At the mo, i'm "searching" for the perfect job but alas i've went from being a few weeks away from running my own store to earning serious wonga as a sales rep to working in a call centre to wrapping boxes in a dirty store.

chocolate_o_brian

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I also wouldn't rule out an apprenticeship. I'm the eldest on mine by at least 2 years over the second eldest (in some case 9 years older) at 25. I'm even older than 2 of my instructors so go figure. Yeah the wages are pants as an employer can pay you nothing if they wish for the first 12 months of an apprenticeship, but it depends how much you want it. I went from earning £20k+ at my old job (which is classed as min wage on here ) and having a nice Scoob etc to a first year annual salary of £6119. Thats about £490 a month take home, and I have a mortgage and bills to pay. Admittedly my Mrs works (albeit only min wage factory fodder) but we cope. I know in the years to come when I get where I want, the money will be better and job satisfaction will be high too.

Sorry to sound harsh, but if you really want a change and if an apprenticeship was the only realistic option, sacrifices would need to be made.

PM me if you want any more info away from the vultires on here

Rob_Impreza99

iTrader: (3)

Prostituition, very little outlay and hours to suit ?

wrighty338

iTrader: (33)

mylesthegreat yeah it would, iv looked into it but i was talking to a guy that did just that and now its changed where he is, hes simply service desk now kinda like what i do. and it would be a paycut

davyboy, im probably the best, proactive, logical worker on my team and iv twice been denied the chance to move on as the hiring and firing system at my work is corrupt by one guy...they know who they want before they even interview for jobs higher up. hence kinda wanting to leave and do something else.

wrighty338

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your very right mate, i wouldnt mind learning at home or part time but then id be hunting a job on more money then my IT wage. your right people always want a painter and decorator, same with sparkies, plumbers...theyre all to do with things people always need. youd think!

wrighty338

iTrader: (33)

aint just gonna jack mate i arnt that daft im bored of doing the same thing day in, day out, same place, same people, same problems, still getting paid the wage i was when i started, and the new kids just started on more then me (go figure?) surly that means my experience is valued as much as a new guys (none) we are underpaid because were out in the sticks a bit and havnt even had a rise to go with inflation for 2 years now youd understand if you were in my shoes. £6k under the local average wage and £9k under the uk average

alcazar

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Not much money to be made in the trades, either, unless you own the business.

My lad was on £12 an hour here, is on the same in Holland, but his mate in the UK who has managed to find a job, re-started on £8 an hour which has now risen to £9.50.....hardly a fortune.

Plater-welder.

Jamz3k

Local/National Averages mean absolutely nothing so i wouldn't pay much attention to them. Do you not think that a plumber gets sick and tired of pulling **** out of bogged bogs every week or a sparky gets bored of routing the same cables in the same way for the same reason every week? When its sunny i always think to myself how great it would be in the summer working out in the sun all day long but lets face how much sun to we get? most of the time you're playing in puddles! I wouldn't jump at a trade just because its safe mate, try and find something that really interests you. I still haven't found what interests me although i did apply to be a librarian at some University near me because I thought it would be stacked full of hot chicks every week! Until I find happiness, i'm just gonna keep wrapping those boxes whilst getting paid exactly the same as the assistant manager cus i'm AWESOME!

kingofturds

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I was made redundant in september, and was over the moon at first getting out of a boring job. If you offered me my old job back now I'd jump at the chance.
Unless you want to be a house basher becoming a fully fledged sparkie is going to take 2-3 years. I have my nvq 2 in electrical engineering and am currently at college doing my 17th edition refresher course and the best I can get is house bashing a few council houses as an elictricians mate.
I'm currently on a 5 week temp contract doing 4 12 hour shifts, boring as hell but 4 months of either being unemployed or lugging washing machines up 3 flights of stairs for £6.50 an hour it has made me appreciate how hard a good paying job is to come across these days.

Jamie

Labrador sniffer training for the likes of haiti red X

More to come soon

Jamz are you a skater boy ?

AWESOME

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Learn a specialism in the IT sector, I do databases and its quite well payed, I work for a brilliant company with nice people and get looked after. Also, the networking side can be quite lucrative, look on the job boards and see what is paying well, then learn it, I did that with Oracle, swotting every night to do the certification exams.

Was worth it, went from 30 grand-ish at the Police to £40 an hour contracting, nothing better than seeing over a grand, clear go into the bank, now back on a salary but do nicely from it, to be honest, its all about the learning, get qualified and keep current in something sought after, you can be the best help desk, pc tech or server guy and still not get paid very well as the market is full of people with those skills.

wrighty338

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jamz im trying to find something that interests me, i love music and would love to work in the industry but been a promotor or anythings risky and not that well paid, wish i could DJ for £1200 a night though!

j4cko i tryed learning networking but i didnt get on with it, now even the basic cisco exams are split in two, i gelled quite well with unix but theres just no progression or learning at my place, its all mickey mouse ****.

Jamz3k

That is the hardest part, very daunting in my opinion too as when i see something i like the sound of i'm very wary that i could be fooling myself as it may just be a fad that i'll waste time on.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

The construction industry is wiped out at the minute due to the credit crisis and pay has been slashed. Men who have been qualified for say 20 years are struggling to find constant work so now isn't a good time to think about this type of ove

Adrian F

This isnt the time to go into the trades, i am an electrical contract manager with 10 years experience in post and i have been a sparks for 18 years as i trained whilst in my early 20's in the late 80's and early 90's, i am just being made redundant and i am one of many like this in the trade.

There are very few jobs in the trade and wages have dropped by 30-35% in the last 18 months there is very little work for electricians the bottom end of the market is flooded with eastern european who will work for less than minimum wage by putting in lots of unpaid over time.

The jobs above that are paying £11 per hour for working as a mobile eletrician in central london paying 8 hours a day 8am to 4pm onsite with the comute to site and home being in your own time the companies will send you anyway with in a 3 hour comute and expect you to drive it every day, so you wont get rich on that. some of the places you have to work are not nice in fact depending on the clients it can be disgusting for example one of my mates has been rebuilding jamed sewage pumps in public toilets frequently jammed with needles so he has to strip it and clear the jam and then put it back as the company doesnt want the cost of replacements.

GC8

+1: working from home.

paulwrxboro

everybody thinks of being a plumber to get "easy money" ...its not easy and its no fun its just a job like most others, it will get boring and the 50k a year is made up mainly by training centres, at your age the world is you oyster...good luck

zip106

Pack your job in or try and take voluntary redundancy, sell everything you can and then bugger off traveling for a year.

When you get back there'll be loads of jobs available.

Possibly.

cookstar

iTrader: (6)

I would have thought the money would be if you have you own business, not working for someone else, do you have any contacts in the industry that could point you in the right direction for work.

It must be very hard to start off without knowing the right people.


If I had to pick a trade to learn then I would become a spark, as people are generally scared of touching anything electrical, and there are also building regs preventing unqualified people from doing much more than very basic alterations, therefore will look to pay someone to do it for them

Just my opinion but people generally seem to have a go at most other things like simple plumbing, plastering and joinery as you're unlikely to kill anyone if it goes wrong.

scunnered

iTrader: (1)

You could become an undertaker. I'm sure people would be dying to give you their business.
Or you could be a lift operator, although it seems that job has its ups and downs.
Or you could pehaps try your hand at being a fortune teller, but I can't see any future in it.

kingofturds

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I have found the old saying "it's not you know but who you know" to be very true.

GazTheHat

Why not take a side-step in IT. It will build on your current experience without a complete career change. There are soooo many different IT jobs you could aim at. A lot can be learnt from home/online.

Networking/Programming/Training/Building.

Find the right one and get good and you'll get a damn good wage and travel if that's what you're after.

Just my 2p

Jay m A

iTrader: (2)

Seems you're bored of the company you work with, why not try for a similar role at a different (decent) company?