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Old 23 January 2010, 11:58 AM
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Default Has anyone any experience with "Power Pour"? Its a detonation Supressant.

Hi Guys,
As per the title, I picked some of this up from the Autosport show and have been doing a little testing with it on my own car and have to say it seems to do exactly what it says on the tin.

I am looking forward to trying it out on a more serious application as the M5's active management fights my attempts to make it knock so will be trying it on a big power Lancer 9 running Motec later this week, but industry reports have been very good and we even have David Rowe singing its praises lately along with other serious industry tuners like Peter Knight so I thought I would ask on here and see if anyone has any personal experience with it as we have such a great cross section of users and respected tuners that it is likely I could get some real world feedback from some of you guys on here before I look at signing the deal to become an official distributor.

For those of you whom don't know what it is, it is a detonation suppressant that almost eliminates a pump fuels ability to detonate under extreme compression or due to heat, but it does so without changing its octane and is also transparent to fuel tests making it ideal for Motorsport use where standard fuel is required. This means you can wind up the timing where the fuels detonation properties had previously limited you, run higher compressions both dynamic or static and lean out mixtures where you only ran rich to suppress heat induced detonation/pre ignition.

Its a very interesting product indeed and I thought you guys running knock links etc may well have tried it?
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Surely someone on here has experience of it?
Old 25 January 2010, 09:47 AM
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I read the title and thought it was some kind of body building supplement that stopped you from exploding or something
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I read the title and thought you were about to engage in Jihad on the crayfish....
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Mods please move this to general technical where it belongs
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What's the main ingredients?

MMT?
Toluene?
Xylene?
MTBE?

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does it stop redness when boiling? or have i missed the point?
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Originally Posted by Stu @ Internet Brands
it is a detonation suppressant that almost eliminates a pump fuels ability to detonate under extreme compression or due to heat, but it does so without changing its octane and is also transparent to fuel tests making it ideal for Motorsport use where standard fuel is required.
Would that not be cheating
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tbh seems to be a bodge cover it job, shouldn;t be any det, so if there is then theres more serious issues that need looking at
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
tbh seems to be a bodge cover it job, shouldn;t be any det, so if there is then theres more serious issues that need looking at
Often the detonation point of the chosen fuel is the only thing limiting an engines power in its current mechanical form. That is why we move up to race fuel or start using additives such as this. It is not always acceptable or correct to start changing an engines physical properties to improve its efficiency when we are faced only with fuel limitations.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ Internet Brands
Often the detonation point of the chosen fuel is the only thing limiting an engines power in its current mechanical form. That is why we move up to race fuel or start using additives such as this. It is not always acceptable or correct to start changing an engines physical properties to improve its efficiency when we are faced only with fuel limitations.

if your pushing normal fuel that far then i think you need to look at the fundamental issue for deffinate so again not just hide the problem with some adative.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
if your pushing normal fuel that far then i think you need to look at the fundamental issue for deffinate so again not just hide the problem with some adative.
Welcome to the world of motorsport. I am sure hundreds, no thousands of championship race engine builders out there will join me in disagreeing with you there. I am happy to agree to disagree though as we are heading off topic.

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I'm pretty long in the tooth and have seen 1,000's of these 'miracle' treatments come and go ... I'm pretty sure that, without exception, they have failed to deliver what they promise.

However, this product is aimed at the serious motor racer and not road cars, as I can see - these experts will know whats what and will give their verdict by either using or not.

Are there any independant Scientific tests and reports to read? A google shows very little independant information.
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Think I would stick with the knocklink!

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