More labia miss management/global warming bull****e
More labia miss management/global warming bull****e
08 January 2010, 07:28 PM
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EH?
Heaviest Snow in 30 years ... longest coldest period in much longer ... and you expect that the Government allows Councils to stock massive amounts of RockSalt - just in case?
Labour did right - operate a just-in-time principle and save taxpayers money .... you would rather add 1p to a litre of petrol to pay for what you would like to happen?
Yes or No?
Heaviest Snow in 30 years ... longest coldest period in much longer ... and you expect that the Government allows Councils to stock massive amounts of RockSalt - just in case?
Labour did right - operate a just-in-time principle and save taxpayers money .... you would rather add 1p to a litre of petrol to pay for what you would like to happen?
Yes or No?
08 January 2010, 08:03 PM
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EH?
Heaviest Snow in 30 years ... longest coldest period in much longer ... and you expect that the Government allows Councils to stock massive amounts of RockSalt - just in case?
Labour did right - operate a just-in-time principle and save taxpayers money .... you would rather add 1p to a litre of petrol to pay for what you would like to happen?
Yes or No?
Heaviest Snow in 30 years ... longest coldest period in much longer ... and you expect that the Government allows Councils to stock massive amounts of RockSalt - just in case?
Labour did right - operate a just-in-time principle and save taxpayers money .... you would rather add 1p to a litre of petrol to pay for what you would like to happen?
Yes or No?
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08 January 2010, 08:06 PM
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Not any more - not since they worked out that higher taxes mean less global warming.
Just look at how the weather has been since VAT went back up!
Just look at how the weather has been since VAT went back up!
08 January 2010, 08:09 PM
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I do blame Labour for this weather ..... I'm sure they thought that January would be General Election month 
Remember, only Labour supporters are hard enough to turn out if there's a chill in the air .... the Tory lovers will only turn out if it is all sunny and calm and they can have a jolly good walk through ones estate
Remember, only Labour supporters are hard enough to turn out if there's a chill in the air .... the Tory lovers will only turn out if it is all sunny and calm and they can have a jolly good walk through ones estate
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08 January 2010, 09:00 PM
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And this would be the same government who overpayed £10M to asylum
seekers, and admitted it failed to track where the money was going, and it
could be higher, as they haven't checked for 2 years.
Money ? Salt?, hey whats the difference who gives a f*ck, its not our money.
Mart
seekers, and admitted it failed to track where the money was going, and it
could be higher, as they haven't checked for 2 years.
Money ? Salt?, hey whats the difference who gives a f*ck, its not our money.
Mart
08 January 2010, 10:42 PM
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See Burning our money "A View From The Ice Road Friday, January 08, 2010"
"... Some very obvious points:
* Against the wholesale danger and disruption now being caused by our ice roads, £12.2m is a vanishingly small sum. It stacks up against the £600m per day the chaos is estimated to be costing UK businesses.
* £12.2m is less than 0.007% of total local authority spending this year. It compares to the £450m pa the TPA discovered councils spend on publicity (see this blog).
* Refocusing the Met Office on weather forecasting and cutting its budget by £100m pa would fund an eightfold increase in council supplies of salt and grit
......
PPS I know what you're thinking - Tyler must have made some mistake - surely local councils have spent more than £12.2m on gritting. But I promise you that's the official number from the Local Government Association. Here's the full quote:
"An LGA analysis of council gritting activity over the last three weeks, since the cold snap started, estimated that:
* The equivalent of 1.7 million miles of road have been gritted by council gritting teams
* 200,000 tonnes of salt have been spread on the road
* £12.2m has been spent treating the roads
* 4,000 council staff have been involved in gritting operations around the clock"
..."
Which sums up the priorities of our supposed servants!
Dave
"... Some very obvious points:
* Against the wholesale danger and disruption now being caused by our ice roads, £12.2m is a vanishingly small sum. It stacks up against the £600m per day the chaos is estimated to be costing UK businesses.
* £12.2m is less than 0.007% of total local authority spending this year. It compares to the £450m pa the TPA discovered councils spend on publicity (see this blog).
* Refocusing the Met Office on weather forecasting and cutting its budget by £100m pa would fund an eightfold increase in council supplies of salt and grit
......
PPS I know what you're thinking - Tyler must have made some mistake - surely local councils have spent more than £12.2m on gritting. But I promise you that's the official number from the Local Government Association. Here's the full quote:
"An LGA analysis of council gritting activity over the last three weeks, since the cold snap started, estimated that:
* The equivalent of 1.7 million miles of road have been gritted by council gritting teams
* 200,000 tonnes of salt have been spread on the road
* £12.2m has been spent treating the roads
* 4,000 council staff have been involved in gritting operations around the clock"
..."
Which sums up the priorities of our supposed servants!
Dave
08 January 2010, 11:55 PM
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And this would be the same government who overpayed £10M to asylum
seekers, and admitted it failed to track where the money was going, and it
could be higher, as they haven't checked for 2 years.
Money ? Salt?, hey whats the difference who gives a f*ck, its not our money.
Mart
seekers, and admitted it failed to track where the money was going, and it
could be higher, as they haven't checked for 2 years.
Money ? Salt?, hey whats the difference who gives a f*ck, its not our money.
Mart
You guys seriously need to change the record
09 January 2010, 12:12 AM
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PPS I know what you're thinking - Tyler must have made some mistake - surely local councils have spent more than £12.2m on gritting. But I promise you that's the official number from the Local Government Association. Here's the full quote:
09 January 2010, 09:09 AM
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My little hamlet is only about a 1/2 mile from a main(ish) road. As the council haven't been seen in it at all this winter, those of us with 2-wheel drive cannot get in or out. All it would take is a gritter on a 200 yard hilly stretch and we would be *able to get out more*.Dave
09 January 2010, 09:15 AM
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Ummm. Pete - Frozen Britain forced to order salt from abroad as stocks dwindle - Times Online
"... Lord Adonis said that “substantial orders” for rock salt had been placed in America and the Mediterranean but they would not arrive until January 22. The Minister also called on householders to help to clear pavements. The Government has been accused of acting too late as some councils said that they had only 24 hours supply of salt left. Lord Adonis effectively admitted that the orders had only just been placed despite the warnings ... Salins, the biggest salt company in France, said that it was receiving “desperate” orders from the British Government and local authorities. A source at the company said: “They did not store enough beforehand.”
Salt shipped from abroad costs between £50 to £90 a tonne, twice the cost of British salt. ....."
JIT? It might have been if they had ordered it JIT. As it is they've ordered too bleddy late! And they have the cheek to call on Joe Public to help clear up their incompetence. And it's costing us twice as much. That'll help the recession.
Roll on the GE.
Dave
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09 January 2010, 09:24 AM
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You won't believe how apt your comment is! My little hamlet is only about a 1/2 mile from a main(ish) road. As the council haven't been seen in it at all this winter, those of us with 2-wheel drive cannot get in or out. All it would take is a gritter on a 200 yard hilly stretch and we would be *able to get out more*.
Dave
My little hamlet is only about a 1/2 mile from a main(ish) road. As the council haven't been seen in it at all this winter, those of us with 2-wheel drive cannot get in or out. All it would take is a gritter on a 200 yard hilly stretch and we would be *able to get out more*.Dave
But the Government etc have been pushing global warming and the long range forecast by the Global Warming Met Office was for (same as last year) a mild winter, so it would be a brave council to stock up to normal levels of road salt and grit.
09 January 2010, 12:14 PM
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mmm, its a difficult one this, how do you plan for something that happens once in a blue moon?
flooding is a classic example, flooding tends to only happen when there are extreams, to actually cover the cost of making sure flooding doesn;t ever happen your prob gonna have to pay extra £200 a month to c0ver the cost.
you have to try to provide for the most you can with what you have. simple as, you can;t cover everything
flooding is a classic example, flooding tends to only happen when there are extreams, to actually cover the cost of making sure flooding doesn;t ever happen your prob gonna have to pay extra £200 a month to c0ver the cost.
you have to try to provide for the most you can with what you have. simple as, you can;t cover everything
09 January 2010, 12:38 PM
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Some people need to get in touch with reality....
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre...is_uk_snow.jpg
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre...is_uk_snow.jpg
09 January 2010, 12:47 PM
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Interesting one indeed. I'd say Gulf stream....but that should also keep Cornwall warm too. Clearly not this winter. Atlantic Conveyor "shutting down", lol. I'd imagine the winters of the late 60's and early 70's would have looked like this from space.
09 January 2010, 01:00 PM
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We can thank Al Gore for the interwebby thing too. Darwin had to wait weeks, months, if not years, to get work peer reviewed.
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09 January 2010, 01:54 PM
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09 January 2010, 01:58 PM
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EH?
Heaviest Snow in 30 years ... longest coldest period in much longer ... and you expect that the Government allows Councils to stock massive amounts of RockSalt - just in case?
Labour did right - operate a just-in-time principle and save taxpayers money .... you would rather add 1p to a litre of petrol to pay for what you would like to happen?
Yes or No?
Heaviest Snow in 30 years ... longest coldest period in much longer ... and you expect that the Government allows Councils to stock massive amounts of RockSalt - just in case?
Labour did right - operate a just-in-time principle and save taxpayers money .... you would rather add 1p to a litre of petrol to pay for what you would like to happen?
Yes or No?
Its like insrance really, it costs the country more in the long run if it is forced to largely close down.
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09 January 2010, 02:40 PM
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Oh come on Les, you know insurance is a big ponzi scheme. And my parents are snowed in in Hampshire, not happened in 35 years since we moved there. We used to have grit bins on roads in the '70's but I guess with gorebull warming, such as that covering the UK right now, we don't need them as there is no snow or ice anywhere in the UK, right?
09 January 2010, 03:12 PM
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The government are going to lose more money in lost tax revenues caused by people driving, working and shopping less than they would have spent on making sure this sort of shambles could not happen.
Just when we may possibly have been seeing the faint glimmers of an economic recovery they find another way to shoot themselves in the foot and shaft us along the way yet again.
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09 January 2010, 05:17 PM
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Why are English people so useless in bad weather ? We could insist on winter tyres we could also just insist on people carrying a pair of auto-snow-socks in the car at all times. THe issue is too many people using the weather as an excuse to not work combined with idiots who cannot drive. MOst cars can get where they need to go if they have too I do not understand how snow is the governments problem, its weather deal with it instead of moaning about it. Most of northern Europe must be pissing themselves at how this country grinds to a standstill when 4 inches of snow hits the ground.
09 January 2010, 05:28 PM
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09 January 2010, 05:34 PM
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I'm still trying to work out the link behind Immigrants and the Snow which has fallen once in 30 years!? And I've failed, there is no link - just the ramblings of the Tories
I cannot believe there are people on here (supposedly intelligent, in the most part) who think we should stockpile rocksalt, at huge cost to the taxpayer, incase - once in every 30 years - the snow is heavy!!!
I cannot believe there are people on here (supposedly intelligent, in the most part) who think we should stockpile rocksalt, at huge cost to the taxpayer, incase - once in every 30 years - the snow is heavy!!!
09 January 2010, 06:15 PM
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Why is there less than 10 years ago is the issue , and actually i remember heavy winters in the early nineties - down south even 
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