Harriet Hardon - still thinking she is above the law and us mere mortals
04 October 2009, 05:32 PM
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Harriet Hardon - still thinking she is above the law and us mere mortals
Harriet Harman failed to leave details at scene of car crash, allege witnesses | Politics | The Observer
The MP for Camberwell and Peckham is reported to have wound down her window following the crash and said to witnesses: "I'm Harriet Harman – you know where you can get hold of me," before driving off.
TBH I would not recognise the munter if she slapped me around the face with a wet haddock!
The MP for Camberwell and Peckham is reported to have wound down her window following the crash and said to witnesses: "I'm Harriet Harman – you know where you can get hold of me," before driving off.
TBH I would not recognise the munter if she slapped me around the face with a wet haddock!
04 October 2009, 05:42 PM
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Harriet Hardon..........
Sorry Paul but she doesn't do that for me .....
dl
(or is that her offical nickname?)
Sorry Paul but she doesn't do that for me .....
dl
(or is that her offical nickname?)
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04 October 2009, 05:56 PM
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She really is one of my very least liked MPs, how the hell she has got to be in the government is mystery (maybe you're on to something with the 'Hardon' thing
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The accident, which is said to have occurred while the leader of the House of Commons was using her mobile phone, did not result in any injuries.
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Harriet Harman failed to leave details at scene of car crash, allege witnesses | Politics | The Observer
The MP for Camberwell and Peckham is reported to have wound down her window following the crash and said to witnesses: "I'm Harriet Harman – you know where you can get hold of me," before driving off.
TBH I would not recognise the munter if she slapped me around the face with a wet haddock!
The MP for Camberwell and Peckham is reported to have wound down her window following the crash and said to witnesses: "I'm Harriet Harman – you know where you can get hold of me," before driving off.
TBH I would not recognise the munter if she slapped me around the face with a wet haddock!
PS There are some saying she is a candidate to replace GG?!!!!!!!
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04 October 2009, 06:35 PM
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Funny this NSR place. Not one person has posted on this thread other than me questioning the validity of the report especially as it emanates from the The Mail on Sunday.
Yet as soon as they report anything positive about the governmnet you all say it is media fabrication, in the pocket of the government etc.
Hmmmmm
Yet as soon as they report anything positive about the governmnet you all say it is media fabrication, in the pocket of the government etc.
Hmmmmm
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Funny this NSR place. Not one person has posted on this thread other than me questioning the validity of the report especially as it emanates from the The Mail on Sunday.
Yet as soon as they report anything positive about the governmnet you all say it is media fabrication, in the pocket of the government etc.
Hmmmmm
Yet as soon as they report anything positive about the governmnet you all say it is media fabrication, in the pocket of the government etc.
Hmmmmm
The sheer fact that there is this quote
A Scotland Yard spokesman said yesterday: "We are investigating a minor traffic collision and are in the process of taking statements from all parties concerned."
There is plenty of Labour hype on NSR, in fact some might say far too much. However, this is about a person who will hide behind her job, rather than a "labour scum" thread
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Funny this NSR place. Not one person has posted on this thread other than me questioning the validity of the report especially as it emanates from the The Mail on Sunday.
Yet as soon as they report anything positive about the governmnet you all say it is media fabrication, in the pocket of the government etc.
Hmmmmm
Yet as soon as they report anything positive about the governmnet you all say it is media fabrication, in the pocket of the government etc.
Hmmmmm
Harriet Harman failed to leave details at scene of car crash, allege witnesses | Politics | The Observer
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I think you are all missing the point. The story emanated from the press (the MoS I believe) and yes it may be in the other papers, but it is they who tipped off the police. All I am saying is why don't we wait and see as the press aren't exactly known for their letting the facts prevent publication of a good story. I am sure said event occurred, but may not be quite as presented to us.
No time for ANY politician so no love lost there, but even less time for the press.
No time for ANY politician so no love lost there, but even less time for the press.
04 October 2009, 06:53 PM
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Where does the MoS come into it?
The sheer fact that there is this quote
is enough to confirm authenticity for me.
There is plenty of Labour hype on NSR, in fact some might say far too much. However, this is about a person who will hide behind her job, rather than a "labour scum" thread
The sheer fact that there is this quote
is enough to confirm authenticity for me.
There is plenty of Labour hype on NSR, in fact some might say far too much. However, this is about a person who will hide behind her job, rather than a "labour scum" thread
Errr are we talking about the same NSR???
Because on this NSR I'd say that maybe 1 in 1,000,000,000,000 political threads are positive about the government
04 October 2009, 06:56 PM
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Did they?
And, errm.... so what if they did? Maybe this is the sort of story that needs the media behind it, so an MP pays for what they have done for once.
Regardless of what part the MoS play, it seems that other news agencies are happy with the validity of the story, so are reporting it. So im not sure why it matters WHO reported it to the police.
Is there any proof that it was not the car owner and witnesses that first reported it?
Given that the facts of the story are as simple as... car she was driving hit another car, shouted out the window, and drove off... I hardly see there being a deep and complex explaination as to how this occured.
The phone part, might be a little twist, but im sure phone records, and maybe local CCTV would help. Dulwich has plenty of it
And, errm.... so what if they did? Maybe this is the sort of story that needs the media behind it, so an MP pays for what they have done for once.
Regardless of what part the MoS play, it seems that other news agencies are happy with the validity of the story, so are reporting it. So im not sure why it matters WHO reported it to the police.
Is there any proof that it was not the car owner and witnesses that first reported it?
Given that the facts of the story are as simple as... car she was driving hit another car, shouted out the window, and drove off... I hardly see there being a deep and complex explaination as to how this occured.
The phone part, might be a little twist, but im sure phone records, and maybe local CCTV would help. Dulwich has plenty of it
04 October 2009, 06:59 PM
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From 'I'm Harriet Harman - you know where you can get me...' What Minister allegedly told witness after crashing into parked car | Mail Online
"... A senior police source said: 'Ms Harman was due to be questioned by officers last week but because of the Labour Party conference, it is believed they have delayed speaking with her until later this week.'The police were contacted by concerned members of the public who had witnessed the accident and the behaviour of Ms Harman who they said drove off without leaving her details ..."
FYI ....
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04 October 2009, 06:59 PM
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lol maybe the end result finishes up that way, but there have been plenty hyping Blair, Brown, Darling, and labour over recent months.
04 October 2009, 07:01 PM
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You asked where they came into it. So I told you!
And maybe the story is complete bollocks. Ever thought of that? Nope, didn't think so. 
Maybe the truth is somwhere in between. I know you want to believe it so you can justify your dislike of her, but it just may not be as black and white as is presented to us. Where the press are involved things seldom are.
Maybe this is the sort of story that needs the media behind it, so an MP pays for what they have done for once.
Regardless of what part the MoS play, it seems that other news agencies are happy with the validity of the story, so are reporting it. So im not sure why it matters WHO reported it to the police.
Is there any proof that it was not the car owner and witnesses that first reported it?
Given that the facts of the story are as simple as... car she was driving hit another car, shouted out the window, and drove off... I hardly see there being a deep and complex explaination as to how this occured.
The phone part, might be a little twist, but im sure phone records, and maybe local CCTV would help. Dulwich has plenty of it
Regardless of what part the MoS play, it seems that other news agencies are happy with the validity of the story, so are reporting it. So im not sure why it matters WHO reported it to the police.
Is there any proof that it was not the car owner and witnesses that first reported it?
Given that the facts of the story are as simple as... car she was driving hit another car, shouted out the window, and drove off... I hardly see there being a deep and complex explaination as to how this occured.
The phone part, might be a little twist, but im sure phone records, and maybe local CCTV would help. Dulwich has plenty of it
Maybe the truth is somwhere in between. I know you want to believe it so you can justify your dislike of her, but it just may not be as black and white as is presented to us. Where the press are involved things seldom are.
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From 'I'm Harriet Harman - you know where you can get me...' What Minister allegedly told witness after crashing into parked car | Mail Online
"... A senior police source said: 'Ms Harman was due to be questioned by officers last week but because of the Labour Party conference, it is believed they have delayed speaking with her until later this week.'The police were contacted by concerned members of the public who had witnessed the accident and the behaviour of Ms Harman who they said drove off without leaving her details ..."
FYI ....
Dave
"... A senior police source said: 'Ms Harman was due to be questioned by officers last week but because of the Labour Party conference, it is believed they have delayed speaking with her until later this week.'The police were contacted by concerned members of the public who had witnessed the accident and the behaviour of Ms Harman who they said drove off without leaving her details ..."
FYI ....
Dave
Yeah......................but the Mail on Sunday right................
Single sentance summary.
04 October 2009, 07:06 PM
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But seemingly got it wrong.
And maybe its not? Ever thought of that lol.
Dear oh dear. If a paper is happy to publish it, im happy that the story they are reporting is true to the best of their knowledge. If its not, im sure we will all bow down.
I dont even know the woman, so "justify your dislike of her" Are you serious ?
I could not give a monkeys about the woman, I just dont like ANYONE blatently flaunting the law.
You're right, it might not be quite as clear cut, but please..... amuze me with some mitigating circumstances that you would accept, and justify the situation.
Im sure the good folks of Dulwich didnt just see her drive past one day, and scream "quick, call the MoS, lets make up a story about her"
And maybe the story is complete bollocks. Ever thought of that? Nope, didn't think so. Maybe the truth is somwhere in between. I know you want to believe it so you can justify your dislike of her, but it just may not be as black and white as is presented to us. Where the press are involved things seldom are.
Maybe the truth is somwhere in between. I know you want to believe it so you can justify your dislike of her, but it just may not be as black and white as is presented to us. Where the press are involved things seldom are.Dear oh dear. If a paper is happy to publish it, im happy that the story they are reporting is true to the best of their knowledge. If its not, im sure we will all bow down.
I dont even know the woman, so "justify your dislike of her" Are you serious ?
I could not give a monkeys about the woman, I just dont like ANYONE blatently flaunting the law.
You're right, it might not be quite as clear cut, but please..... amuze me with some mitigating circumstances that you would accept, and justify the situation.
Im sure the good folks of Dulwich didnt just see her drive past one day, and scream "quick, call the MoS, lets make up a story about her"
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OK final try here.
The police are waiting to question her this next week because of the Labour Party Conference last week.
So if as we are to believe several concerned members of the public came forward and the incident occured on July 3rd why did they wait until last week to do so or are we expected to believe the police just waited some 13 weeks to do anything.
If you don't smell the hand of the press in here especially given the timing then fair enough, but I know what I think.
The police are waiting to question her this next week because of the Labour Party Conference last week.
So if as we are to believe several concerned members of the public came forward and the incident occured on July 3rd why did they wait until last week to do so or are we expected to believe the police just waited some 13 weeks to do anything.
If you don't smell the hand of the press in here especially given the timing then fair enough, but I know what I think.
04 October 2009, 07:15 PM
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OK final try here.
The police are waiting to question her this next week because of the Labour Party Conference last week.
So if as we are to believe several concerned members of the public came forward and the incident occured on July 3rd why did they wait until last week to do so or are we expected to believe the police just waited some 13 weeks to do anything.
If you don't smell the hand of the press in here especially given the timing then fair enough, but I know what I think.
The police are waiting to question her this next week because of the Labour Party Conference last week.
So if as we are to believe several concerned members of the public came forward and the incident occured on July 3rd why did they wait until last week to do so or are we expected to believe the police just waited some 13 weeks to do anything.
If you don't smell the hand of the press in here especially given the timing then fair enough, but I know what I think.
Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman is being investigated by the police after she was involved in a traffic collision, it was revealed last night.
Investigations for these things are generally pretty slow.
For starters, the owner of the car would report the incident to their insurance to begin the claim for the damage. They would probably be asked for witness info.
The witness info would acuse Harman.
Then slowly but surely, a small (no doubt over worked and under funded) dept of the Met would open an investigation into the matter. Beginning to collect witness statements from anyone willing to come forward.
Once the driver of the car is confirmed, the long process of contacting the registered keeper of the car would start, 14-28 days to provide the name of the driver............
Can you see where this is going?
Investigations take time. Possibly in that time the owner of the car or a witness decided to contact the media, the media contact the police, and they in turn release a statement.
Thats what I think ...........
Having been involved in a number of road traffic incidents as both witness and victim, im quite familiar with how long these things can drag on.
04 October 2009, 07:28 PM
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OK, where shall we start...
Revealed, not reported to the police, not the start of the investigation, not the call was received from the public.
Investigations for these things are generally pretty slow.
For starters, the owner of the car would report the incident to their insurance to begin the claim for the damage. They would probably be asked for witness info.
The witness info would acuse Harman.
Then slowly but surely, a small (no doubt over worked and under funded) dept of the Met would open an investigation into the matter. Beginning to collect witness statements from anyone willing to come forward.
Once the driver of the car is confirmed, the long process of contacting the registered keeper of the car would start, 14-28 days to provide the name of the driver............
Can you see where this is going?
Investigations take time. Possibly in that time the owner of the car or a witness decided to contact the media, the media contact the police, and they in turn release a statement.
Thats what I think ...........
Having been involved in a number of road traffic incidents as both witness and victim, im quite familiar with how long these things can drag on.
Revealed, not reported to the police, not the start of the investigation, not the call was received from the public.
Investigations for these things are generally pretty slow.
For starters, the owner of the car would report the incident to their insurance to begin the claim for the damage. They would probably be asked for witness info.
The witness info would acuse Harman.
Then slowly but surely, a small (no doubt over worked and under funded) dept of the Met would open an investigation into the matter. Beginning to collect witness statements from anyone willing to come forward.
Once the driver of the car is confirmed, the long process of contacting the registered keeper of the car would start, 14-28 days to provide the name of the driver............
Can you see where this is going?
Investigations take time. Possibly in that time the owner of the car or a witness decided to contact the media, the media contact the police, and they in turn release a statement.
Thats what I think ...........
Having been involved in a number of road traffic incidents as both witness and victim, im quite familiar with how long these things can drag on.
Anyway let's agree to differ and sit back and see what happens. Tenner say no charges are brought regardless of whether she did it or not btw
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Yes, and me and i know you do not leave the scene of the accident without echanging information. It is the law - even for NL Ministers...