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Old 08 September 2009, 12:35 PM
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Guys,

Rather than resurrecting threads which aren't really relevant anyway.

I'm got a phone call from Richer Sounds.

My stuff will be there on Thursday

New Denon 1910 Amp with Q-acoustics 1010i 5.1 package

So then, any tips/advice for me?

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Old 08 September 2009, 12:57 PM
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get some decent speaker cable for one . That's all you need really I'm. Assuming you know whcih position the speakers have to bei
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Usual advice, allow minimum 10% of equipment value for cables/interconnects etc.

1.5m-2m between front channels unless you have a football pitch for a lounge.

Rear channels 500mm above ear level

Sub at the screen end (to the left or right), I've found sub behind or at the sofa overpowers and becomes directional way to soon.
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Originally Posted by scooby L
Usual advice, allow minimum 10% of equipment value for cables/interconnects etc.

1.5m-2m between front channels unless you have a football pitch for a lounge.

Rear channels 500mm above ear level

Sub at the screen end (to the left or right), I've found sub behind or at the sofa overpowers and becomes directional way to soon.
agreed. buying bell wire after spending your hard earned is like serving a 25 yr old whiskey in a plastic cup.
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Sub will be slightly to the right of the screen.

Cables as part of the deal (Decent cables)

Was hoping for details particulary to do with the amp setup.

Another guy says go for the automatic setup using a mic.
Another says forget about automatic and do it manually.

Now, the real nitty gritty here is that this is my first time with a seperates setup, have always had all in one boxes previously
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Shaun I can sort you out with some top quality cable if you need(FOC),Ive never used it.
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PM me and I'll give you a mates number who does the Bose Pro install's hes good for advice too.
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Thanks Davy,
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ahh the NI massive comes to the rescue again. now if we could all get along like that in SI. sorry shaun didnt mean to hijack

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Its OK, we ALL look out for each other in here.

Not like those other grumpy bunch of ****** that banned me for life - the b@stards
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Originally Posted by urban
Its OK, we ALL look out for each other in here.

Not like those other grumpy bunch of ****** that banned me for life - the b@stards
ffs shaun say what you mean man
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is the new denon an HD amp? does it do DTS HD Master, Dolby TrueHD and DD Plus?
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Specification: 4 HDMI inputs / 1 output
7 x 75 watts
HDMI upconversion
Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume
1080p upscaler
Advanced 32bit DSP chip
DTS-ES Matrix & Discrete 6.1 decoding
Dolby Digital EX, Pro Logic IIx decoding with Cinema and Music Modes
Dolby Pro-Logic IIz decoding
Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS HD decoding, DTS-ES Matrix & Discrete 6.1, DTS Neo:6, Dolby Digital and DTS
Specially tuned for the UK market
Weight: 10.70kg
Height: 171mm | Width: 434mm | Depth: 377mm
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how much if you don't mind me asking? i was looking at the onkyo 605 when it first came out. **** me it has dropped in price
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On its own its 449 or 499
I looked at the onkyo, but seems they have quite a share of problems especially overheating
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so i read on av forums. i mostly watch sky hd now anyways. any movie i want i just download the blu-ray rips. don't take that long now on 50Mbit
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having said that i do like the look of gladiator on blu-ray
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
how much if you don't mind me asking? i was looking at the onkyo 605 when it first came out. **** me it has dropped in price
Glad you have got one now Urban, what did you get it for? I was amazed when I was told I could have mine for £400 especially as they are so popular...maybe they didn't want to loose a sale as they had no 1610s in.

Heard good things about the Onkyos and was considering a 605 myself. After a few weeks of looking though I decided on the Denon as I know the make, also heard of some Onkyos over heating?.

A lot of people also going on about speaker matching online, and the Elacs I have apparently match the Denons better.....Anybody know about Elac cinema2 speakers? got them for £150 from Sevenoaks as they wanted to clear some old stock. Good solid little things with a great sound, it appears they are quite rare.



Enjoy on Thursday Urban twas a good choice.
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wonder how the denon would match up with the B+W stuff i have. my sony 940 has coped admirably over the last 7 - 8 years. Is the HD sound that much better?
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
ffs shaun say what you mean man
Aye Shaun get off the fence mate.
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Good to hear its coming soon, i was speaking to Matt about your order yesterday. As with Mad555 any cables or advice needed drop me a PM i've got quite a few decent opticals and coaxial's etc knocking around without much use to me anymore.
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
wonder how the denon would match up with the B+W stuff i have. my sony 940 has coped admirably over the last 7 - 8 years. Is the HD sound that much better?
i can certainly tell a difference
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I'm tempted to sell my Harmon Kardon AVR255 for a Denon 1910. It was only supposed to be a stop gap until the 1909 came out but I decided to keep it.
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Originally Posted by antc
i can certainly tell a difference
in what way. i certainly notice a big difference between DD5.1 and DTS. i have the region 1 version of the bone collector with a dd5.1 and dts soundtrack on the same disc. the difference as angelina tries to stop the amtrak in the tunnel is amazing. sounds like the train is stopping in your living room with the dts soundtrack. i know the dts carrier is "uncompressed" audio, is it much the same with the HD audio or do you only get 1 format on a BR disc?
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
in what way. i certainly notice a big difference between DD5.1 and DTS. i have the region 1 version of the bone collector with a dd5.1 and dts soundtrack on the same disc. the difference as angelina tries to stop the amtrak in the tunnel is amazing. sounds like the train is stopping in your living room with the dts soundtrack. i know the dts carrier is "uncompressed" audio, is it much the same with the HD audio or do you only get 1 format on a BR disc?
some normally come with dts and dts hd or true hd, i just feel it's alot more cleaner and crisper and more effective then dts. 9/10 i have to actually choose dts hd/true hd in the br menu as it defaults to DTS
i love watching spiderman on it.

i watch alot of films never watch tv much and alot are bluray rips with 1080p and dts but when i stick a bluray i tell a difference.
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
in what way. i certainly notice a big difference between DD5.1 and DTS. i have the region 1 version of the bone collector with a dd5.1 and dts soundtrack on the same disc. the difference as angelina tries to stop the amtrak in the tunnel is amazing. sounds like the train is stopping in your living room with the dts soundtrack. i know the dts carrier is "uncompressed" audio, is it much the same with the HD audio or do you only get 1 format on a BR disc?
Have you ever watched Fifth Element in DTS? its fooking great! I honestly can't tell the difference between DTS and uncompressed HD audio, there definitely isn't the same gap compared to DD and DTS. In saying that Blade Runner running multi-channel out of a HD-DVD Player has probably been the best soundtrack i've ever heard.
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Good to hear its coming soon, i was speaking to Matt about your order yesterday. As with Mad555 any cables or advice needed drop me a PM i've got quite a few decent opticals and coaxial's etc knocking around without much use to me anymore.
Haven't met him yes, but he seems like a decent guy.
I've been bugging the life out of him over the last few days - I just wanted to know when I was getting my stuff - I'm sure he figured that out.

There is a cable bundle worth supposedly £155 by creative audio and they're meant to be matching that, although Matt did say that their cable quality was probably a bit better.

Can't wait really - wife is dreading it i think, but thats just a woman thing as they don't seem to like much surround sound - we'll at least mine doesn't
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Is DTS better than DD then? I thought it was the other was round but I'm new to this. Sky broadcast films in DD5.1 and the 360 uses DD5.1. Can somebody explain the difference please?
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Yo Ho.

The goods are in today

So, I reckon thats a day off work on Friday then to get it all plugged in.
Get the missus out of the road incase carpets have to come up to hide the rear speaker cables, although I'm really hoping I can join the new cables to the old and just pull them through - we'll thats the plan of attack anyway.
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Is DTS better than DD then? I thought it was the other was round but I'm new to this. Sky broadcast films in DD5.1 and the 360 uses DD5.1. Can somebody explain the difference please?

Yep it is as its an "less compressed/uncompressed" audio format compared to DD. Sky and computer games generally don't use it as it would on Sky take up too much bandwidth and for games it just takes too much memory up on a disk or they just don't feel it necessary.

Some games do use DTS though. never heard one myself mind.


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