Kids toothpaste.
26 August 2009, 01:50 PM
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Kids toothpaste.
There must be a toothpaste out there that tastes nice. I always have the same problem when i have to buy my daughter (8) a new tube. Everything she tries is 'too minty'. I have tried a strawberry and berry flavour as well but to no avail. I tell her that she is not meant to eat the stuff just brush with it, but still the battles happen 
What does everyone else use?
I myself think that for adults the Colgate Max White is great
What does everyone else use?
I myself think that for adults the Colgate Max White is great
26 August 2009, 07:05 PM
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Kids shouldnt use kids toothpaste anyway as it has no flouride it in
Especially where we live there is no flouride in the water, so the kids need to use normal adult toothpaste with flouride in it
Especially where we live there is no flouride in the water, so the kids need to use normal adult toothpaste with flouride in it
26 August 2009, 07:27 PM
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Buy Colgate Smiles Higher Fluoride Toothpaste, £1.26, Original & Whitening Toothpaste Products, Online Pharmacy
Childrens toothpaste does contain fluoride.......you just need to titrate the concentration of fluoride in the toothpaste against the fluoride level in the water
Shaun
Childrens toothpaste does contain fluoride.......you just need to titrate the concentration of fluoride in the toothpaste against the fluoride level in the water
Shaun
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26 August 2009, 07:32 PM
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LOL Shaun, im not doing that
Our dentist here and the school nurse and health visitor have all said not to use kids toothpaste because of no flouride in the water in our town
Our dentist here and the school nurse and health visitor have all said not to use kids toothpaste because of no flouride in the water in our town
26 August 2009, 08:05 PM
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A month on Euthymol and the little darling will be dying to get back on the Colgate, dont pander to it, toothpaste is minty, its the law, it shouldnt taste of Bubblegum, its a metaphor for the rest of life, it isnt Bubblegum flavour either, just delaying the ineviatable mintiness does no good, she needs a trip to the Euthymol school of hard knocks.
26 August 2009, 08:15 PM
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A month on Euthymol and the little darling will be dying to get back on the Colgate, dont pander to it, toothpaste is minty, its the law, it shouldnt taste of Bubblegum, its a metaphor for the rest of life, it isnt Bubblegum flavour either, just delaying the ineviatable mintiness does no good, she needs a trip to the Euthymol school of hard knocks.
26 August 2009, 08:15 PM
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Most children hate brushing their teeth. It's an issue that comes from it being a waste of time, mostly because they do not understand why they have to do it.
I just tell my son that if he doesn't brush his teeth they 'might' just fall out one day. White sparkling teeth all round!
I just tell my son that if he doesn't brush his teeth they 'might' just fall out one day. White sparkling teeth all round!
26 August 2009, 08:21 PM
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Lol, never saw the point of that stuff, most workplaces got rid of it as the saving in cost was lost in time when people took an average of 43 minutes for a sit down visit, its the equivalent of Crossplies versus Radials, i.e. no grip when the going gets damp
26 August 2009, 08:26 PM
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our youngest at 20 months old when having a bath (or Faff as he calls it, yet he can say boat) will say teesh teesh and wants his toothbrush and doesnt do a bad job of cleaning his own teeth
26 August 2009, 10:18 PM
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Sonic......
Sorry to be a pain but Kids toothpaste does contain fluoride.......
Usually the advice to use adult toothpaste for kids comes about because of government guideleines about child dental health in deprived areas and "sure start" schemes !
Dental health (dental decay) for children is linked to the "Jarman Score" for any particular area and is a marker of social depravation!
Are you in a "sure start" area ??
Shaun
Sorry to be a pain but Kids toothpaste does contain fluoride.......
Usually the advice to use adult toothpaste for kids comes about because of government guideleines about child dental health in deprived areas and "sure start" schemes !
Dental health (dental decay) for children is linked to the "Jarman Score" for any particular area and is a marker of social depravation!
Are you in a "sure start" area ??
Shaun
26 August 2009, 10:40 PM
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I didnt say the toothpaste didnt contain flouride again
I did say that the water in our area doesnt contain flouride
And yes we are in a 'Sure Start' area, and yes not very far from here is a really depraved council estate, where you will never find a more wretched hive of villainy and scum
I didnt say the toothpaste didnt contain flouride again
I did say that the water in our area doesnt contain flouride
And yes we are in a 'Sure Start' area, and yes not very far from here is a really depraved council estate, where you will never find a more wretched hive of villainy and scum
26 August 2009, 10:56 PM
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Sonic
Dental Health advice in "sure start" areas is different to elsewhere, you should also have access to cheap vegetables and free kitchen aids (blenders) to make use of the aforementioned veg....
Just on a dental health note.....to control dental health in a population you use fluoride as a blunt weapon as it's cheap.
To control dental decay in an individual child you use diet control (reduce sweets, in between meals snacks with sugar, cakes etc) and fissure sealants which requires manpower and is very expensive !!
As dental decay in children is a measure of poverty and educational attainment I don't think you have much to worry about......
Shaun
Dental Health advice in "sure start" areas is different to elsewhere, you should also have access to cheap vegetables and free kitchen aids (blenders) to make use of the aforementioned veg....
Just on a dental health note.....to control dental health in a population you use fluoride as a blunt weapon as it's cheap.
To control dental decay in an individual child you use diet control (reduce sweets, in between meals snacks with sugar, cakes etc) and fissure sealants which requires manpower and is very expensive !!
As dental decay in children is a measure of poverty and educational attainment I don't think you have much to worry about......
Shaun
27 August 2009, 07:48 AM
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Cool thread. My son is 7 months and my dentist recommended we give him some fluoride drops so that during his growing stage, where his teeth are forming, his teeth will be stonger in later life. She strongly recommended we do, but should stick to the recommened amounts. one part in a million or something.
Reading about this, some people say its a good idea, some say its a bad idea. When mentioning this to other people, the adults that did this when younger, now have no fillings. If the amounts are too high, then you get some sort of moterling on the teeth, white bits. My local water board, Southern Water, doesnt add flouride to the water either.
So, anyone else done this ? Or had flouride treatment when younger ?
Be interested to know your thoughts.
SBK
Reading about this, some people say its a good idea, some say its a bad idea. When mentioning this to other people, the adults that did this when younger, now have no fillings. If the amounts are too high, then you get some sort of moterling on the teeth, white bits. My local water board, Southern Water, doesnt add flouride to the water either.
So, anyone else done this ? Or had flouride treatment when younger ?
Be interested to know your thoughts.
SBK
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27 August 2009, 08:49 AM
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I cannot believe all this, whatever happened to an apple a day, and a piece of cheese after a meal to neutralize the acid?
My 3 year old son doesn't even have all his teeth yet, but I just use common sense and good parenting, toothpaste isn't supposed to be loved by anyone, but it does it's jobs.
My biggest fear is getting to 70+ and having my teeth pulled out and having dentures, so I do my damned hardest to stop that.
My 3 year old son doesn't even have all his teeth yet, but I just use common sense and good parenting, toothpaste isn't supposed to be loved by anyone, but it does it's jobs.
My biggest fear is getting to 70+ and having my teeth pulled out and having dentures, so I do my damned hardest to stop that.
27 August 2009, 03:18 PM
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Simon K
Just got to be a little careful here as I'm not your dentist nor have I any clinical information and don't want to be at odds with one of my professional colleagues........ The other problem is that I'm a Consultant in Restorative Dentistry and not a specialist in children's dentistry.
The role of "systemic" flouride where you have young children ingest fluoride which gets incorporated into the growing enamel is not as effective as fluoride washing over the teeth and being absorbed onto the surface...... as is what happens with Fluoride toothpaste. The clinical recommendations for fluoride tablets is to let them dissolve slowly in the mouth for as long as possible so that the fluoride has maximum contact with the teeth themselves.
Fluoride supplements (drops, tablets, gels and varnishes) are usually reserved for children over the age of 3 who are at a very high risk of getting decay either through a medical condition or through the parents having low socio-economic and educational status.
I could point you to the publications from the BDA and the British Paediatric Dental Society but the FAQ from the British Dental Health Foundation is probably better...
British Dental Health Foundation
As I mentioned above, the best way of controlling decay in individuals is by diet and fissure sealants plus fluoride toothpastes.
My 3 kids have never had fluoride supplements but have a sensible(ish) diet, use a fluoride toothpaste and have fissure sealed first molars......no decay
Does this help ??
Cheers
Shaun
PS we also live in a non-fluoridated area
Just got to be a little careful here as I'm not your dentist nor have I any clinical information and don't want to be at odds with one of my professional colleagues........ The other problem is that I'm a Consultant in Restorative Dentistry and not a specialist in children's dentistry.
The role of "systemic" flouride where you have young children ingest fluoride which gets incorporated into the growing enamel is not as effective as fluoride washing over the teeth and being absorbed onto the surface...... as is what happens with Fluoride toothpaste. The clinical recommendations for fluoride tablets is to let them dissolve slowly in the mouth for as long as possible so that the fluoride has maximum contact with the teeth themselves.
Fluoride supplements (drops, tablets, gels and varnishes) are usually reserved for children over the age of 3 who are at a very high risk of getting decay either through a medical condition or through the parents having low socio-economic and educational status.
I could point you to the publications from the BDA and the British Paediatric Dental Society but the FAQ from the British Dental Health Foundation is probably better...
British Dental Health Foundation
As I mentioned above, the best way of controlling decay in individuals is by diet and fissure sealants plus fluoride toothpastes.
My 3 kids have never had fluoride supplements but have a sensible(ish) diet, use a fluoride toothpaste and have fissure sealed first molars......no decay
Does this help ??
Cheers
Shaun
PS we also live in a non-fluoridated area
27 August 2009, 03:27 PM
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sarasquares,
Colgate "stars" is meant to be mildly minty...... it contains thymol which is often the bit that kids don't like.
I'll have a look in the cupboards to see if we have any Oral B "Stages" toothpaste about. Age 8 is Stage 4 which is basically "adult"
Shaun
Colgate "stars" is meant to be mildly minty...... it contains thymol which is often the bit that kids don't like.
I'll have a look in the cupboards to see if we have any Oral B "Stages" toothpaste about. Age 8 is Stage 4 which is basically "adult"
Shaun
27 August 2009, 11:06 PM
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Cheers Shaun
Useful info, not sure on the Veg but the kids have quite a bit in their diet and less of the sweets etc
the youngest (20 months) loves carrots, and with sunday dinner its the first thing he eats till they are all gone, then he starts on the brocolli & cauliflower, the meat usually being the last thing he eats
all the kids use the same toothpaste as we do, which is generally colgate original only they have their own tube as they squeeze from the top and dont shut the lid either
Useful info, not sure on the Veg but the kids have quite a bit in their diet and less of the sweets etc
the youngest (20 months) loves carrots, and with sunday dinner its the first thing he eats till they are all gone, then he starts on the brocolli & cauliflower, the meat usually being the last thing he eats
all the kids use the same toothpaste as we do, which is generally colgate original only they have their own tube as they squeeze from the top and dont shut the lid either
28 August 2009, 08:17 AM
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MidLife / Shaun, thanks mate. I appriecate you taking the time to reply. If honest Id never heard about this until I used this new dentist.
I agree though diet is everything, no matter what you do, if you eat tons of sweets and dont brush, then you will rot your teeth. My son is 7 months and we brush his teeth, using a kid toothpaste, nightly after every bath, and he loves his veg, i.e. tomatoes, carrots, broccoli, etc etc. His mother and I are very strict about this.
So, its more about what else I can do, to ensure further that I can prevent any issues, as what type of father would I be if I didnt try and do the best for my little man :-)
Therefore, if these drops, or whatever add extra protection, without any negative effects, then should I try it ??
SBK
I agree though diet is everything, no matter what you do, if you eat tons of sweets and dont brush, then you will rot your teeth. My son is 7 months and we brush his teeth, using a kid toothpaste, nightly after every bath, and he loves his veg, i.e. tomatoes, carrots, broccoli, etc etc. His mother and I are very strict about this.
So, its more about what else I can do, to ensure further that I can prevent any issues, as what type of father would I be if I didnt try and do the best for my little man :-)
Therefore, if these drops, or whatever add extra protection, without any negative effects, then should I try it ??
SBK