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Old 18 July 2009, 06:15 PM
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I'd be more inclined to beleive them if it wasn't a US mission the photographed it. At the res in the news article, they could be anything.
Old 18 July 2009, 06:18 PM
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If they are "new" images, why are they in black and white??

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Old 18 July 2009, 06:23 PM
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Anyone remember a few years back when they mapped the whole surface with hi-res photo's streaming them live onto the interweb, and the conspiracy theorists immediately noticed all the bits left behind were missing. After a technical glitch with the website the images reappeared, complete with all the missing stuff Photoshopped in
Old 18 July 2009, 07:11 PM
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Look up at the moon on a clear night......what colour is it ?

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Old 18 July 2009, 07:18 PM
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Cheese coloured
Old 18 July 2009, 07:22 PM
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you must eat some pretty odd cheese...
Old 18 July 2009, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Boomer

Look up at the moon on a clear night......what colour is it ?

Shaun
But due to the speed of light, the images of the moon that i can see "on a clear night" are from the distant past, so only appear in black and white - circa 1969.

Surely with all this new technology and HD and silicon chips and that, the "Nasa's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) spacecraft" would come up with some very detailed colour pictures - unless, of course, these latest pictures are fakes

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Old 18 July 2009, 07:32 PM
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There is no way they landed there back in 69. Computers were as powerful as todays mobiles

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Old 18 July 2009, 07:51 PM
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Todays mobiles are many times more powerful than what allegedly got them to the moon. A Sinclair ZX81 with 16k RAM Pack is about the same spec.


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Old 18 July 2009, 07:57 PM
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JFK

"We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too."

awsome stuff when humantity gives itself a goal -- aim high people
Old 18 July 2009, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Todays mobiles are many times more powerful than what allegedly got them to the moon. A Sinclair ZX81 with 16k RAM Pack is about the same spec.

And (although it may have changed now) but werent NASA requested all old PC's (bbc's spectrums etc etc) be donated to them as they still use parts of them

It wasnt 'that' long ago that the Harrier Jump Jet switched from compact cassette for loading its mission data, they said it had never gone wrong since the 60's so why change it for some new flaky technology

FWIW They did go to the Moon
Old 18 July 2009, 08:22 PM
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To control the most complex machine ever made, the Saturn V rocket maybe
Old 18 July 2009, 08:34 PM
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the one thing all the doubters seem to forget is that the russians monitored all the apollo missions...now if it was faked dont u think the russians would of exposed america as a liar ?
Old 18 July 2009, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
it's simple
Yeah, looks it....


Old 18 July 2009, 09:10 PM
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cool - didnt realise the different stages were made by different people though....
Old 18 July 2009, 09:50 PM
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The Saturn Rocket had so many million parts and even with the 99.9% success of all parts it still meant that over 6,000 parts WILL fail

Now the majority of those parts are tubes and pipes and valves etc, so no computers required there then

and besides it is like Nat said, one huge firework pointing upwards light the touch paper and stand the **** back (a bit more than 25 metres though ) once free of the orbit, do a 180 and the let the earths gravity do the rest

I would say its not exactly rocket science, but it is
Old 18 July 2009, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Launch rocket into large earth orbit...dab "brakes" to stop in lunar orbit...dab them again to descend to moon, go up again and rejoin orbiter, fire rockets to leave lunar orbit, continue on earth orbit thanks to good old gravity. The physics/calculations are really very simple. As far as rocket science goes it's simple as simon.

You could honestly write down the calculations for the mission on a bit of paper...

Oi Nat

Never said they didn't do it, but I'd like to see someone else prove that they did it.

B+W photos I can understand, you can run a faster ISO in B+W and boy do you need a fast shutter speed when you doing 10000's mph!!!

As for the cpu argument, not so, a mate and his brother both work in the sapce industry. 1 writes control software for satalites, the other for ESA. The coder can control the sats he codes for from an Atari! Hell look at Colosus. Sending man into space in 69 was entirely possible with the processing power they had then. Don't forget, NASA as a Gvot agency could have had a computer the side of teh Empire state building if they'd needed it.
Old 18 July 2009, 11:17 PM
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I have one for a Skoda Fabia
Old 19 July 2009, 08:47 AM
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Excellent set....

Paramount or MGM ????

Old 19 July 2009, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
And here's what we're actually looking at

Actually, it's only the bottom half (the decent stage) that remains, as I'm sure everyone knows..
Old 19 July 2009, 11:09 AM
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Having done the military tour of Cape Canaveral and been up the top of the VAB with a mission being prepared at the time, and having met a large number of the NASA personnel, I believe that they did achieve what they say until someone can prove satisfactorily that they didn't.

Les


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