Blimey that must have been a moment in the cockpit.
18 June 2009, 08:53 PM
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Blimey that must have been a moment in the cockpit.
18 June 2009, 08:55 PM
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Pretty unusual event that, but a complete non event in safety terms.
Two FO's in the cockpit ( min of 10 years needed to be a COA FO ) and looking at the weather an autoland in JFK.
Commiserations to the family of the captain.
Two FO's in the cockpit ( min of 10 years needed to be a COA FO ) and looking at the weather an autoland in JFK.
Commiserations to the family of the captain.
18 June 2009, 09:31 PM
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utterly bizarre, it makes you think doesnt it? you can just fall down dead, no warning, bam, gone.
the only reason this is news worthy is beacuse he was in the one profession where you can really do without that. I mean, you could probably get by if you were a lollipop lady, but being an airline pilot and suddenly dropping dead really can ruin your day. Not that your day wouldnt be ruined enough by being dead that is...
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the only reason this is news worthy is beacuse he was in the one profession where you can really do without that. I mean, you could probably get by if you were a lollipop lady, but being an airline pilot and suddenly dropping dead really can ruin your day. Not that your day wouldnt be ruined enough by being dead that is...
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18 June 2009, 10:49 PM
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utterly bizarre, it makes you think doesnt it? you can just fall down dead, no warning, bam, gone.
the only reason this is news worthy is beacuse he was in the one profession where you can really do without that. I mean, you could probably get by if you were a lollipop lady, but being an airline pilot and suddenly dropping dead really can ruin your day. Not that your day wouldnt be ruined enough by being dead that is...
astraboy.
the only reason this is news worthy is beacuse he was in the one profession where you can really do without that. I mean, you could probably get by if you were a lollipop lady, but being an airline pilot and suddenly dropping dead really can ruin your day. Not that your day wouldnt be ruined enough by being dead that is...
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Interesting perspective 
Does anyone know what they would do with the now deceased?
Nasty question I know, but what would they do with the body? Surely someone would need to sit in his chair?
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18 June 2009, 11:01 PM
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The temptation the run around screaming that would almost be immeasurable! I wonder when they told the passengers 
Condolences of course go to the family. A joke for us has cost a family and friends a lot more
19 June 2009, 03:42 AM
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**** this is worrying I'm 64 and I am ******** a delightful 27 year old young woman who is insatiable - I don't want to snuff it while on the job , but come to think of it , she is on top of me most of the time ha ha.
19 June 2009, 07:53 AM
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thats the way i'd like to go, doing something I love and I have yet to meet a pilot who doesnt love flying.
rob, dont complain about ******* a 27 year old
rob, dont complain about ******* a 27 year old
19 June 2009, 02:38 PM
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It sounds as though the aircraft was in the cruise at the time. The aircraft would be controlled by the autopilot and the fact that he had pegged out would make so significant difference to the control of the aircraft at the time, unless he had collapsed over the controls thus forcing the autopilot to disengage. It would just keep flying along en route untli someone took control from the autopilot.
It would just be necessary for the dead pilot to be removed from his seat and the other First Officer to take his place. Both those pilots would be competent to fly the aircraft, it is part of the job, so there would be no difficulty as far as they were concerned to land the aircraft.
We used to regularly pretend to collapse at the controls to give the co-pilot the exercise in taking charge of the aircraft and to let him land it with no extra help!
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It would just be necessary for the dead pilot to be removed from his seat and the other First Officer to take his place. Both those pilots would be competent to fly the aircraft, it is part of the job, so there would be no difficulty as far as they were concerned to land the aircraft.
We used to regularly pretend to collapse at the controls to give the co-pilot the exercise in taking charge of the aircraft and to let him land it with no extra help!
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19 June 2009, 02:45 PM
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Daft question Les, but..... what would be done with the body if the deceased?
I know its a bit of a bad question to ask but..... curiosity and all that.
I know its a bit of a bad question to ask but..... curiosity and all that.
It sounds as though the aircraft was in the cruise at the time. The aircraft would be controlled by the autopilot and the fact that he had pegged out would make so significant difference to the control of the aircraft at the time, unless he had collapsed over the controls thus forcing the autopilot to disengage. It would just keep flying along en route untli someone took control from the autopilot.
It would just be necessary for the dead pilot to be removed from his seat and the other First Officer to take his place. Both those pilots would be competent to fly the aircraft, it is part of the job, so there would be no difficulty as far as they were concerned to land the aircraft.
We used to regularly pretend to collapse at the controls to give the co-pilot the exercise in taking charge of the aircraft and to let him land it with no extra help!
Les
It would just be necessary for the dead pilot to be removed from his seat and the other First Officer to take his place. Both those pilots would be competent to fly the aircraft, it is part of the job, so there would be no difficulty as far as they were concerned to land the aircraft.
We used to regularly pretend to collapse at the controls to give the co-pilot the exercise in taking charge of the aircraft and to let him land it with no extra help!
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19 June 2009, 04:07 PM
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Would not get much sleep after that though!
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19 June 2009, 04:17 PM
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Not really Snazy. They usually have a bunk behind the cockpit so that when they are flying with an extended crew on a long trip, one of the three pilots can get his head down for a while. That would be the obvious place for the body so that the passengers don't see what has happened.
Would not get much sleep after that though!
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Would not get much sleep after that though!
Les
Must be a tough one to deal with all the same though I would have thought
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It sounds as though the aircraft was in the cruise at the time. The aircraft would be controlled by the autopilot and the fact that he had pegged out would make so significant difference to the control of the aircraft at the time, unless he had collapsed over the controls thus forcing the autopilot to disengage. It would just keep flying along en route untli someone noticed...
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Sympathy to the family.
20 June 2009, 11:34 AM
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Never got used to calling for taxi clearance and having to say "Taxi, 130 on board-129 souls"
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20 June 2009, 12:51 PM
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I can imagine thats both full of honour repatriating, but very sad to know its "one of your own" so to speak.I remember watching something about Air Force 1, being a call sign and all. The captain of the plane that took Kennedy to Texas. Recalled the flight back, and something about mid flight home with the body the Vice was sworn is as acting president, so they had to relinguish their call sign mid flight. He was very emotional about that.
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