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Old 06 January 2009, 09:03 PM
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I’m not going to post any of the sellers details just want advice

Bought a phone as "100% brand new" phone arrived, very second hand, filthy scratched, call and text logs listed on it. anyway contacted the seller and he advised to send it back and he would refund my money, sent the phone back by recorded delivery and nothing !
no contact with the seller for over a week so i opened a dispute via paypal, he then contacts me to advise he would pay me as soon as i rescinded the action.
Against my better judgement i did and now nothing!! he doesn’t respond to my emails and now i have rescinded the action PayPal will not open another dispute on the same item ! ive reported him to Ebay, no response. He continues to actively trade on Ebay. Again reported him as a fraudulent trader and i await Ebays response.

Any ideas ?
Old 06 January 2009, 09:07 PM
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How long has it been since reversing the dispute?

In fairness the money is frozen by paypal usually so he cannot refund the money until the dispute is closed. But its also a clever scam.

Just out of interest what was the feedback rating of the seller like ?
Old 06 January 2009, 09:15 PM
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reversed it on 29th Dec, hes had the phone back since 14th Dec !!!! hasnt responded since i lifted the action !!

his 275 activity rating was ok, about 98.8%


Originally Posted by Snazy
How long has it been since reversing the dispute?

In fairness the money is frozen by paypal usually so he cannot refund the money until the dispute is closed. But its also a clever scam.

Just out of interest what was the feedback rating of the seller like ?
Old 06 January 2009, 09:17 PM
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Are you able to reopen a dispute? I have never tried that.
Have Ebay or Paypal had anything to say about it ?

Has the phone been relisted?
Just wondering if its a hijacked account or something
Old 06 January 2009, 09:24 PM
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Sorry pal, you've been suckered and lost your money.

Now the case is closed, Paypal will do even less than the **** all they'd have done had you kept the dispute open. You can't re-open it. The amount will be too small for the Police or small claims to be interested in, so best just chalk this one up to experience or pop a suitably worded letter in the post by recorded delivery and see what happens.
Old 06 January 2009, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NXG
so best just chalk this one up to experience or pop a suitably worded letter in the post by recorded delivery and see what happens.
think a visit to his home, or place of work may be an option if he doesnt cough up. face to face negotiation is always the best option i find
Old 06 January 2009, 09:32 PM
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Keep an eye on his future listings and put a bid in for £1000000 on every one and it may be help to start a few bogus accounts up in your wifes /kids/friends name to help it along...works a treat
Old 06 January 2009, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tmo
think a visit to his home, or place of work may be an option if he doesnt cough up. face to face negotiation is always the best option i find
Indeed it is, i once was conned on flybay and the bloke only lived 5 miles away, i knew him ( with my account ) and i was bidding with my brothers account! his face and tremble when i was banging at the door. and i did get my monay back
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everytime the seller has an item for sale, bid and win the item and then refuse to pay im sure the seller will love a taste of there own medicine

scammers **** them
Old 07 January 2009, 09:18 AM
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If the guy has feedback of 275 mostly positive then I can't see him ripping you off purposefully for a mobile phone. Does he have any active listings/activity?

Maybe he's gone on holiday
Old 07 January 2009, 09:25 AM
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I don't do or understand e bay but offering for sale a 100% brand new phone and sending a knackered used one sounds a bit wrong
Old 07 January 2009, 09:31 AM
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You have his address so should be able to find out his number, ring him (and record it) so you can see what the story is.

You can go though the small claims court, it will cost £25 to start a claim I think (which you claim back from him if you are successful), he has to reply with his side of the story or the Judge will rule in your favour and you can send in the baliffs.... https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk

Did you have a photos of the phone as you recieved it? any other proof/documnets/emails all these can be used in your favor.
Old 07 January 2009, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Connor_scotland
You have his address

Go round an recover the debt yourself. If you dont feel confident in donig that take a friend with you

Trust me he will give you the money if you turn up
i know what you mean, but believe me i don’t need a friend lol
Old 07 January 2009, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
If the guy has feedback of 275 mostly positive then I can't see him ripping you off purposefully for a mobile phone. Does he have any active listings/activity?

Maybe he's gone on holiday
yes he has fresh listings !
Old 08 January 2009, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Connor_scotland
You have his address

Go round an recover the debt yourself. If you dont feel confident in donig that take a friend with you

Trust me he will give you the money if you turn up

If you dont fancy that start posting him dog **** an anything else you want

Start terrorising him until he refunds you

Then make posters with his name an address on them stating he is a paedophile.

A bit extremem but people need to learn its bad to rip people off



Thats far worse than nicking a few quid off someone.
Old 08 January 2009, 08:46 PM
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thing is,he can block your ebay ID so you really want to go nuts and buy all his BUY IT NOW items rather than biddin on stuff

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Old 08 January 2009, 08:52 PM
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name and shame this low-life!!!!
this is the very reason that makes dealing on ebay difficult!!!!
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