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Old 06 January 2009, 07:14 PM
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Question Sky multiroom question...

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The ever helpful people at Sky say they won't install me an additional multiroom set up unless i buy a new box off them. I have a spare box so don't see the point in paying £49 for a new one.

I already have a HD box downstairs, and a sky+ box in the master bedroom, but i want to install my old (non Sky+ ,SD, so with the one input) box in another bedroom.

My question is what do i need? Will my existing LNB be ok and have an output, or do i need a multi LNB set up? Any links to the item i require would be great.

Then i presume its simply a matter of running the signal cable and telephone cable round to the box?

Sky are sending me another viewing card but as i said won't install unless i buy another box off them.
Old 06 January 2009, 07:49 PM
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When the helpful engineer installed our sky+

he said the easiest way to watch for upstairs without going back to sky was

to put the old box in the bedroom, run a feed from the lnb .. (if you look they

usually have four output feeds)

and then cough get a card of ebay cough

Mart
Old 06 January 2009, 08:29 PM
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If you have HD and Sky+ won't you be using all of your LNB outputs from your dish already, 2 LNB to each?

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Old 06 January 2009, 08:48 PM
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that's where you'll find the charge is from(fit another dish). but there is a stupid law but nobody abides to it but you can't have more then one dish on a property without asking for planning permission, but nobody gives a toss to that rule.

If you wanna have another point you'll need a octo (8) LNB which will mean upgrading the dish to a 60cm one.

give a aerial/sat compan out of the yellow pages they can do it but ya gotta mention 5 outputs.

Our company don't do 60cm dishes or i'd reccommend us

Where you based?

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Old 06 January 2009, 08:57 PM
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Pish!
you CAN fit octo's on standard sky dishes! we do it all the time!
and yes, for my sins, Im one of those 'fekkin eejit monkeys that put dishes up for sky
Old 06 January 2009, 09:08 PM
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it should be 60cm if it's running HD but thats my opinion, as i've seen people have problems running a octo on a 43cm sky dish.

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Old 06 January 2009, 11:06 PM
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Well I best go get my ladders off my van, take them around the back of my house, climb the 30 odd ft up to my dish-on-a-pole and take it all down and swap it for a bigger dish then, after all its been up there since dot and the octo has been on for a couple of years now running two plus boxes, a HD and two standard units without a single issue, but hey.. just to be on the safe side............


Disclaimer... please dont try this at home folks....

altho In Ant's defence, if your north of Newcastle etc, might actually be worth getting a larger dish, as the footprint is slightly weaker up there

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Old 06 January 2009, 11:21 PM
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Don't forget you harness ... i know how the sky lads don't like heights

but like i said it's just how i prefer to do it on a job satisfaction point of view, i never said you was wrong did i?i

It just seems you have the attitude most sky engineers have i "know " everything about sky , when i've met a few of sky engineers and know not a great deal, i'm not saying you don't know anything.

Where about are you based dan? do you have experiance in aerial work?

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Old 06 January 2009, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by antc
Don't forget you harness ... i know how the sky lads don't like heights
this ones at MY house
Old 06 January 2009, 11:35 PM
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i was too slow at editing.

as you know dan every engineer has there way of doing things , more so in aerial work as it's not always straight forward as sky. i just go buy how i was trained and been told on my courses.
Old 06 January 2009, 11:43 PM
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almost 20 yrs in, fella.. both man and boy.. did Multi dwelling stuff too, analogue, squarials, old-skool feed horn lnb stuff, motorised, did aerials with Granada years back got my own CAI affiliated certs when I first started out too, so ive been around the square a few times.. but yep.. i hear ya about a fair few Sky engineers , especially towards 'subbys' or those lads that work for themselves/a small concern. they think they're head and shoulders above them but dont realise that some of these guys have seen/forgotten more than they will ever know.

as for the harness's its a case of HAVING to not necessarily WANTING to
Old 07 January 2009, 12:03 AM
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yeh i know skys harshness on harnesses, i've done my working at heights course but with our company it's our own discretion if we fall with it off it's our own fault.

My dad's been doing it for 23 years he then became boss at a company called TIS not sure if ya heard of them. 2 Years ago he set his own company up.

I'm waiting for it to get a bit bigger then it is then i'll be running it , got it all sorted lol.

How long you worked for sky? , i hear nothing but bad things about working for them especially there working days. Just wanted your opinion on them?

Any perks working with them?
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Cheers guys,

Dan Gleebits - much appreciated - so i can use my normal dish, but i need a LNB with 5 outputs i presume and this will work ok?

Don't know what LNB is on it at the minute and if there is any extra outputs over and above the 4 i am using for the HD downstairs and the sky+ upstairs but i will have a look.

Do you have any links to the LNB i require? I presume i can then just stick it into the holder on the dish and connect it up to the 3 boxes.

In fairness the guy who installed my dish and HD originally was spot on, did say he should not really go onto the roof but a beer on a hot summers evening persuaded him.

I'm in the Hinckley area of Leicestershire if it makes any difference.
Old 07 January 2009, 08:49 AM
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Ant, as said up there ^^ 20 years almost of doing this stuff... perks are free skyHD and Plus etc etc, and sky BB too... plus all the usual medicare type stuff etc .. all in all its not a bad place i guess, its like any job... its what you make of it


Mark.. have a look on the 'bay for an OCTO (eight way) LNB. You cant get a five way .. only single, twin, quad and octo.. and yeah, your standard dish should be ok as your well into the central/midlands area.. in fact Hinkley is possible only about 25 miles or so from where I am and I use a standard dish with all of my gubbinn's attatched
Old 07 January 2009, 09:32 AM
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I was thinking of having another multiroom box.

At the moment I pay £10 for the additional box but I understand that as I don't have sports/movies I can have it for £5 per month. Is that the same for each additional box?
Old 07 January 2009, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Gleebits
Ant, as said up there ^^ 20 years almost of doing this stuff... perks are free skyHD and Plus etc etc, and sky BB too... plus all the usual medicare type stuff etc .. all in all its not a bad place i guess, its like any job... its what you make of it


Mark.. have a look on the 'bay for an OCTO (eight way) LNB. You cant get a five way .. only single, twin, quad and octo.. and yeah, your standard dish should be ok as your well into the central/midlands area.. in fact Hinkley is possible only about 25 miles or so from where I am and I use a standard dish with all of my gubbinn's attatched
Great stuff

I will sort it out later, that is unless of course you fancy a cash in hand job?
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Have you thought about just using a wireless AV sender?
Old 07 January 2009, 01:15 PM
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No, why should i be?

I just wanted to do it the minimal cost way really.
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them wireless senders are crap,

Ring your local aerial engineer 9/10 do sky work. Just tell them you want a cable running , should cost about £50
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Originally Posted by Dan Gleebits
Pish!
you CAN fit octo's on standard sky dishes! we do it all the time!
and yes, for my sins, Im one of those 'fekkin eejit monkeys that put dishes up for sky
I'm sure you are great, the Sky Engineers that I met were complete idiots. I had a distribution box in the loft (in a new house) and the sky dish there and all they needed to do was fit the LNB and put the cable through the eaves.

"Phhwwww ..... well, I can put another dish up and drill through your wall"

(from two different 'engineers')

I went to the Satellite shop down the road, spoke to them, they came round and 20 minutes later everything was working.

Steve
Old 07 January 2009, 03:05 PM
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they proberly said that as sometimes going through the eves can be a pain in the ****, I only do it as a last resort
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Originally Posted by antc
them wireless senders are crap,

Ring your local aerial engineer 9/10 do sky work. Just tell them you want a cable running , should cost about £50
No, No, No, i'm quite capable of putting ends on cables and runing them myself, i just wanted to make sure i get the right LNB.
Old 07 January 2009, 03:19 PM
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Sorry when you said cash in hand job I thought you meant the whole job.

Yeh just swap it for a octo be carefull swapping the lnb's over quite easy to knock the dish off alignment because sometimes they don't come out smoothly
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