Prison diary after causing a car accident - read on
06 January 2009, 12:43 PM
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Prison diary after causing a car accident - read on
A guy from PH and the CTR forum I'm still on has started writing up the diary he put together after being sent to prison or causing an accident in his Integra.
Well worth a read.
Prison Diary
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Well worth a read.
Prison Diary
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06 January 2009, 12:58 PM
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Collated yesterday but I thought there was a thread about this a long time ago, same guy same accident, but prior to prison maybe?
Guess this is the continuation then
Guess this is the continuation then
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06 January 2009, 01:08 PM
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What a fantastic thread. Wish I had time to read it all.
The scary thing is that this clearly isn't the account of a hardened criminal, nor someone who had deliberately set out to hurt someone, or even done something grossly reckless like drink driving! So you can't just dismiss is by saying: well, I can't identify with him at all; I'd never behave like that!
This appears to be a likable guy of good conscience and considerable driving experience that lost control of his car whilst out on a enthusiastic drive in his car. I don't know about you lot, but I'll certainly admit to pressing on a bit given a good road. Nothing irresponsible or silly, but I'm sure that's what this guy thought right before the accident.
This line sums it up and really makes you think:
" I was guilty, impotent and wondering how I'd gone from an enthusiastic drive to a potential killer in the space of 50 metres".
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The scary thing is that this clearly isn't the account of a hardened criminal, nor someone who had deliberately set out to hurt someone, or even done something grossly reckless like drink driving! So you can't just dismiss is by saying: well, I can't identify with him at all; I'd never behave like that!
This appears to be a likable guy of good conscience and considerable driving experience that lost control of his car whilst out on a enthusiastic drive in his car. I don't know about you lot, but I'll certainly admit to pressing on a bit given a good road. Nothing irresponsible or silly, but I'm sure that's what this guy thought right before the accident.
This line sums it up and really makes you think:
" I was guilty, impotent and wondering how I'd gone from an enthusiastic drive to a potential killer in the space of 50 metres".
Ns04
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i read the thread your link pointed to and was definately worth a read. can you post a link to the original thread others have mentioned please?
06 January 2009, 01:52 PM
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Seriously though terrible buisness.
06 January 2009, 02:09 PM
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Just sat and read it. What a insightful thread - have bookmarked it to read more as it is posted
06 January 2009, 02:12 PM
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06 January 2009, 02:29 PM
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Agree, Tel. I would personally make the distinction between someone racing someone else on the public highway and doing whatever is necessary to get in front and someone who is extending the car for their own enjoyment on a quiet road in good conditions.
Of course, the distinction between an enthusiastic drive and behaving like a prat is very much open to discussion: some would say it's one and the same thing, others (including me) would say that's a gross oversimplification and demonises those who are capable of using their discretion about appropriate driving behaviour for given conditions! What this example does illustrate though is that if you make a judgment and get it wrong, the consequences can be very serious.....I guess we all knew that already, but we tend to get complacement, or think that this kind of thing can only happen to scallys who nick cars etc.. Cases like this bring it home that it also happens to seemingly decent folk who make a genuine mistake!
My personal take (very broadly speaking) is that if you are driving within the car's limits of grip and traction and staying on your own side of the road, unless you have a clear line of sight, then you're ok. I personally, don't do "races" nor do I take the car outside of its grip envelope on the public road.
The mistake this guy seemed to have made was pushing it near a corner where there was no visibility for oncoming traffic. Had there been a good line of sight, the biker would have had a chance to see and react to his loss of control and who knows what the outcome might have been.
Easy to be wise in retrospect though, especially from a prison cell, and that's the moral of this story, I'd say!
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Of course, the distinction between an enthusiastic drive and behaving like a prat is very much open to discussion: some would say it's one and the same thing, others (including me) would say that's a gross oversimplification and demonises those who are capable of using their discretion about appropriate driving behaviour for given conditions! What this example does illustrate though is that if you make a judgment and get it wrong, the consequences can be very serious.....I guess we all knew that already, but we tend to get complacement, or think that this kind of thing can only happen to scallys who nick cars etc.. Cases like this bring it home that it also happens to seemingly decent folk who make a genuine mistake!
My personal take (very broadly speaking) is that if you are driving within the car's limits of grip and traction and staying on your own side of the road, unless you have a clear line of sight, then you're ok. I personally, don't do "races" nor do I take the car outside of its grip envelope on the public road.
The mistake this guy seemed to have made was pushing it near a corner where there was no visibility for oncoming traffic. Had there been a good line of sight, the biker would have had a chance to see and react to his loss of control and who knows what the outcome might have been.
Easy to be wise in retrospect though, especially from a prison cell, and that's the moral of this story, I'd say!
Ns04
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06 January 2009, 02:53 PM
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Just started to read it now and finding it very interesting, but I have just finished reading "the damage Done"( the story of Warren Fellows who spent 12 years in a Bangkok prison). So i'm going to leave the thread for a few days as nothing compares to the horrors in this book.
06 January 2009, 03:16 PM
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Its the 2nd time ive read it. TBH I would think twice about going to Thailand (but would still end up going), I know he was 100% guilty but whe you understand how corrupt the country and prison system is 
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Although I feel NO sympathy for him, after all only one person was pressing the fast peddle in his car, It has made me consider how I drive.
I know im not the only person on here that has a sneaky drift session on empty roundabouts.
If the same happened to me I would expect no sympathy, but thankfully due to him sharing this account I think I will limit my enthusiastic driving to the track from now on.
The feeling of guilt and not being to talk to his other half were the points that got me.
I started off by thinking, t*sser you should'nt drive like an idiot, soon realised it wasnt about justification, its a tale of what happens when it all goes wrong.
Must read!!
I know im not the only person on here that has a sneaky drift session on empty roundabouts.
If the same happened to me I would expect no sympathy, but thankfully due to him sharing this account I think I will limit my enthusiastic driving to the track from now on.
The feeling of guilt and not being to talk to his other half were the points that got me.
I started off by thinking, t*sser you should'nt drive like an idiot, soon realised it wasnt about justification, its a tale of what happens when it all goes wrong.
Must read!!
06 January 2009, 03:27 PM
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What a good read
My mate got sent down on October 1st for 16 months and some of the stories hes been telling me are very simular to the ones in that diary. sh*t food, daytime TV etc.
My mates funny, Last time i spoke to him he'd just been quizzing that Michael Shields the Liverpool supporter on if he had done it or not!
He's in the cell opposite. 
SetoN
My mate got sent down on October 1st for 16 months and some of the stories hes been telling me are very simular to the ones in that diary. sh*t food, daytime TV etc.
My mates funny, Last time i spoke to him he'd just been quizzing that Michael Shields the Liverpool supporter on if he had done it or not!
He's in the cell opposite. SetoN
06 January 2009, 04:13 PM
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what a decent read. really opens your eyes, i certainly wouldnt want that to happen to me, and in a werid way its atually made me think about near misses or drives in the past, and wished i'd just calmed it down a bit.
