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Old 03 January 2009, 10:01 AM
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I gather the US want to shut the camp and release the inmates. Fair enough IMO.
Does anyone know the reason why they can't all be settled in the US or indeed if any of them are going to be?
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I also note that NL has volunteered to house some of the inmates. Seems like they want to get their feet under the table with the new President.

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Wondered that myself. The US have asked the Aussie Govt to take some detainees. Fortunately, it looks like Rudd and Co. have told the US to get stuffed. I'd be surprised if UK Govt hadn't been approached. Seems they have

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Old 03 January 2009, 11:06 AM
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Apparently the UK is being asked to take some of them here. As this Gov has supported terrorists in the past I cant see why they wont do it again.

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Originally Posted by Leslie
I also note that NL has volunteered to house some of the inmates. Seems like they want to get their feet under the table with the new President.

Les
Are you suggesting there might be some (Gordon) Brown-tonguing about to be going on here?

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I would be amazed if we did not take some of the prisoners. The powers that be have decided that its reasonable to detain some of these people without trial. I am pretty certain we will assist, just as we assisted in getting them to Guantanamo in the first place (provided refuelling facilities for American aircraft)
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Originally Posted by cster
Are you suggesting there might be some (Gordon) Brown-tonguing about to be going on here?
You might say that-I could not possibly comment!

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Old 03 January 2009, 12:58 PM
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I am sure there are some out and out hard line terrorists being held but I suspect most of them were brainwashed uneducated youngsters in the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't think that they can now be convicted in a proper court as much of the "evidence" against them was obtained under duress, and that's putting it mildly. But they are hardly going to be pro-Western so having them here or the USA, free, is asking for trouble.

If they can't be returned to their own countries I would have thought there would be sympathetic parties, say Iran, that they could go to, via a third party perhaps? Cash may be required. dl

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Keep your friends close and your enemies closer spings to mind.
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Originally Posted by cster
I gather the US want to shut the camp and release the inmates. Fair enough IMO.
Does anyone know the reason why they can't all be settled in the US or indeed if any of them are going to be?
Probably because 90% of them are innocent, have not been convicted of anything and have probably been tortured so much there bollox look like Sainsbury olives (yeah bit wrinkly and small).

Just a thought
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what they should do is wack the US Government into the human rights courts. i would imagine they would win
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Originally Posted by Luke
what they should do is wack the US Government into the human rights courts. i would imagine they would win
& the Americans would ignore the courts as they have already done
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I expect the UK government will probably take them all as most probably have family here, enjoying numerous state benefits

Give it a couple of years and they'll all be back in Iraq murdering our troops...
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Originally Posted by Luke
what they should do is wack the US Government into the human rights courts. i would imagine they would win
Legal aid should cover that for the lucky one's that end up here.
Old 03 January 2009, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
I expect the UK government will probably take them all as most probably have family here, enjoying numerous state benefits

Give it a couple of years and they'll all be back in Iraq murdering our troops...

too true
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Originally Posted by RyanSTI
too true
how can they murder "our" troops. if i went to a army base and killed a soldier then i have murdered him etc.

Our troops are in THEIR country. ruining it,Uninvited . so if they feel like "killing" our soldiers it is their right. dont blame them, blame the Governments
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
But most of them don't come from the country they were captured in .....

Dave

so? they still wanted to fight etc? i love how some men who carry guns are called soldiers and other terrorists !!
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why dont you go and set them free, im sure they'd like to tie die there clothes with you.
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Originally Posted by RyanSTI
why dont you go and set them free, im sure they'd like to tie die there clothes with you.
not my fight !!

but good luck to them, they have been treated terribly. Like jews in a SS camp

you and I "jo Public" know nothing about them. if they are guilty etc. what the USA did was show that they will also act like the SS if they want
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