Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

Buying Brazil, Japan, BP today

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08 October 2008, 11:11 AM
  #1  
john banks
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Buying Brazil, Japan, BP today

What are you buying?

I'm not buying banks as I think there is a danger of losing all your money if they collapse.

If the FTSE 100 goes below 4000 I'll probably buy.
Old 08 October 2008, 11:19 AM
  #2  
NotoriousREV
Scooby Regular
 
NotoriousREV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,581
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

China, Metals

I'm an idiot, though
Old 08 October 2008, 11:22 AM
  #3  
Turbo2
Scooby Regular
 
Turbo2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northants. 22B sold, as-new Lotus Omega instead.
Posts: 2,027
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

A sausage roll for lunch today I reckon.
Old 08 October 2008, 11:33 AM
  #4  
PeteBrant
Scooby Regular
 
PeteBrant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Worthing..
Posts: 7,575
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Turbo2
A sausage roll for lunch today I reckon.
Risky.

I've heard the pastry market is going to be a bit flat today; and the forecast is for sausagemeat to have toxic debt.
Old 08 October 2008, 11:37 AM
  #5  
EddScott
Scooby Regular
 
EddScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: West Wales
Posts: 12,573
Received 64 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by john banks

If the FTSE 100 goes below 4000 I'll probably buy.
Have a bet on it will be end of play Friday.
Old 08 October 2008, 11:58 AM
  #6  
Dieseldog
Scooby Regular
 
Dieseldog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 813
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

... not knowing anything about investing and all, but aren't you a bit late for Brazil? The strength of the Real (up by 40% over the last 18 months, suggests to me any potential has already been taken up, does it not?
Old 08 October 2008, 12:01 PM
  #7  
john banks
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

BBC NEWS | Business | Market Data | Currencies | Sterling v Real
Old 08 October 2008, 12:03 PM
  #8  
Dieseldog
Scooby Regular
 
Dieseldog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 813
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

well I hadn't looked at it for at least a month lol...
Old 08 October 2008, 12:06 PM
  #9  
r32
Scooby Regular
 
r32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Far Corfe
Posts: 3,618
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Northern Rock
Old 08 October 2008, 12:07 PM
  #10  
john banks
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

It moves that fast! US, UK and ECB have just done a coordinated interest rate cut. 0.5% off the BoE base rate.
Old 08 October 2008, 12:29 PM
  #11  
vindaloo
Scooby Regular
 
vindaloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: South Bucks
Posts: 3,213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I haven't looked at Japan for ages.

If I was more of a betting man, I'd look @ Santander (Abbey). They've been in the news buying up bits of Alliance and Leicester and B&B.

Aside from that, Brazil's economy is set to suffer if there's a global recession. Demand for raw materials and heavy industrial processing will drop off.

Likewise, BP, Shell... A USA recession will hurt demand figures and lead to the price dropping and hence the share price.

J.
Old 08 October 2008, 12:53 PM
  #12  
john banks
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Agree re oil, commodities, manufacturing, I'm buying because I think these might be getting priced in.
Old 08 October 2008, 01:00 PM
  #13  
stevebt
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
stevebt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 16,732
Received 33 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by EddScott
Have a bet on it will be end of play Friday.

You could of lost that bet as the FTSE has responded positively to the drop in interest rates
Old 08 October 2008, 01:13 PM
  #14  
john banks
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Already £1400 up on this morning's purchases

I'm sure they'll be worth 5p next week.
Old 08 October 2008, 02:20 PM
  #15  
Devildog
Scooby Regular
 
Devildog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Away from this place
Posts: 4,430
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Depends on the amounts.

RBOS has to be worth a look - if it goes "bust" we may have more to worry about than a few grand lost on the stock market...
Old 08 October 2008, 02:23 PM
  #16  
TopBanana
Scooby Regular
 
TopBanana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 9,781
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Nothing. Now's a good time to sit tight IMO. Bargains aren't going to disappear overnight.
Old 08 October 2008, 03:11 PM
  #17  
alloy
Scooby Regular
 
alloy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Shell petrol station
Posts: 4,495
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Short of the market is the only place to be
Old 08 October 2008, 03:50 PM
  #18  
MJW
Scooby Senior
 
MJW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: West Yorks.
Posts: 4,130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

John, do you reckon there's still any mileage in gold these days ? I realise that 4-5 years ago you'd probably have made a killing, but what about now ?
Old 08 October 2008, 04:23 PM
  #19  
jaytc2003
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
jaytc2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Manchester ish
Posts: 18,547
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

bp shares are good at the moment, wont be long before they go back up. I work on a castrol (bp) site that is closing at the end of the year, a guy who is being made redundant at the end of oct will come out with about 25k in shares he has told me. About 3 months back they were worth over 30k
Old 08 October 2008, 04:25 PM
  #20  
unclebuck
Scooby Regular
 
unclebuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Talk to the hand....
Posts: 13,331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Risky.

I've heard the pastry market is going to be a bit flat today.
Yea, I've heard it's gone a bit flakey.
Old 08 October 2008, 05:10 PM
  #21  
john banks
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
john banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: 32 cylinders and many cats
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

MJW, I sold most of my gold recently, a combination of panic about the status of ETF securities/AIG and also disappointment that gold did not seem to be actually hedging against disaster very well. Maybe the dollar's gains have been a dead cat bounce, maybe a recognition of reserve currency status if we head into a deflation. However, I expected a dramatic response from gold when we had negative real interest rates and didn't get it.
Old 08 October 2008, 05:18 PM
  #22  
gpssti4
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
gpssti4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Deepest Darkest Kernow
Posts: 4,404
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

We've an appartment block in Brazil. It was worth about £30-£40k, two years later nearer £70-£80k and that's allowing for the poor exchange rate at the moment.
Old 08 October 2008, 05:27 PM
  #23  
Deep Singh
Scooby Regular
 
Deep Singh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,582
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Nothing at the moment. Bought some gold (physical) when it was about $770 spot. Like you though suprised it did not rocket over the last few days with all the turmoil. But I do believe in gold, physical only though for me.

Wouldn't put a penny anywhere at the moment, cash is and will be king
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
KAS35RSTI
Subaru
27
04 November 2021 07:12 PM
SilverM3
ScoobyNet General
8
24 February 2021 01:03 PM
Abx
Subaru
22
09 January 2016 05:42 PM
scoobhunter722
ScoobyNet General
52
20 October 2015 04:32 PM
mmcw
Computer & Technology Related
1
25 September 2015 10:18 PM



Quick Reply: Buying Brazil, Japan, BP today



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:44 PM.