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Old 03 October 2008, 09:42 AM
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Question Moral Question.

Had a new front door fitted in March this year. Of course my wife couldn't have a bog standard thing and we ended up with a door with fancy surrounds with leaded glass, better locking system etc. All in all over £2000.00!!!

Anyhow the company took our £50.00 deposit and a few weeks later came and fitted the door.

Thing is that they have not sent me a bill for it or contacted me since!!

Do you think that I should pay the rest or wait and see if they contact me?

Feel a bit guilty but the money is in the bank earning interest.

Wife is chewing my ear to pay it now though.

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Old 03 October 2008, 09:46 AM
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Wait and see what happens... They'll have an audit at some point and realise. As long as there's no early payment discount or anything (this is what our window fitters do), then wait and earn some interest on it.
Old 03 October 2008, 09:48 AM
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maybe the company is feeling guilty that your house value has lost more than the remaining £1950 and therefore letting you off

I would contact them (maybe they have ceased trading????) and see what they say
Old 03 October 2008, 10:17 AM
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I wouldn't do a thing.

Wait for the bill. Why should you chase them to pay? If they don't want your money, don't offer it.
Old 03 October 2008, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
I wouldn't do a thing.

Wait for the bill. Why should you chase them to pay? If they don't want your money, don't offer it.
My thoughts exactly
Old 03 October 2008, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
I wouldn't do a thing.

Wait for the bill. Why should you chase them to pay? If they don't want your money, don't offer it.
I concur
Old 03 October 2008, 10:23 AM
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It isn't really a moral question as you should only pay when you have received a bill.

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Old 03 October 2008, 10:25 AM
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The "moral" thing to do is contact them: you have received a service that you have not paid for.

In terms of what you can justify on a legal basis: it is their responsibility to send you an invoice for the work, until you receive that, there is no need to part with the money. Is there a chance that they may have billed you and it didn't reach you (did they put a letterbox in your fancy door)

It's easy to be moral.....in principle
Old 03 October 2008, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
(did they put a letterbox in your fancy door)
Old 03 October 2008, 10:31 AM
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Two grand, maybe they were embarrassed to come and get that much off you for a door.
Old 03 October 2008, 10:39 AM
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Perhaps the company has gone bust?

A lot of smaller companies have done so since March due to the credit crunch.
Old 03 October 2008, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Two grand, maybe they were embarrassed to come and get that much off you for a door.
A decent fitted External door can easily set you back that much and more
Old 03 October 2008, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
A decent fitted External door can easily set you back that much and more
Only if you are daft enough to pay. I've just had 2 'fancy', oversized doors, a large bay window 5 other windows and 2 replacement panes supplied and fitted for £2,500.

Anybody paying £2k for 1 door doesn't deserve to be allowed out without supervision in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Only if you are daft enough to pay. I've just had 2 'fancy', oversized doors, a large bay window 5 other windows and 2 replacement panes supplied and fitted for £2,500.

Anybody paying £2k for 1 door doesn't deserve to be allowed out without supervision in my opinion.
What did you do with the oversized door if it didnt fit in the door frame? surely the correctsized door would have been more appropriate
Old 03 October 2008, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Only if you are daft enough to pay. I've just had 2 'fancy', oversized doors, a large bay window 5 other windows and 2 replacement panes supplied and fitted for £2,500.

Anybody paying £2k for 1 door doesn't deserve to be allowed out without supervision in my opinion.
Depends on your definition of "fancy"

My Parents own a Door company have have done so for the last 30 years. £2K is not at all out of the ordinary when people want quality craftmanship. Of course it all depends n the property the door is being attached to.

If you have just spent £500K on a property, then is it really unreasonable to spend £2K on what is in effect a main feature of the outside of the house?
Old 03 October 2008, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
What did you do with the oversized door if it didnt fit in the door frame? surely the correctsized door would have been more appropriate
Old 03 October 2008, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Depends on your definition of "fancy"

My Parents own a Door company have have done so for the last 30 years. £2K is not at all out of the ordinary when people want quality craftmanship. Of course it all depends n the property the door is being attached to.

If you have just spent £500K on a property, then is it really unreasonable to spend £2K on what is in effect a main feature of the outside of the house?
As I said, if you're daft enough to pay it.
Old 03 October 2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
What did you do with the oversized door if it didnt fit in the door frame? surely the correctsized door would have been more appropriate
It just doesn't fit a snugly as it could now.
Old 03 October 2008, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
As I said, if you're daft enough to pay it.
Or pikey enough not to
Old 03 October 2008, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Or pikey enough not to
You use pikey by all means. I'd use savvy.

I'm always amazed how so many people have got no courage when it comes to dealing and paying over the odds for everything.
Old 03 October 2008, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
You use pikey by all means. I'd use savvy.

I'm always amazed how so many people have got no courage when it comes to dealing and paying over the odds for everything.
Depends what you buy though doesn't it. I mean if you buy a handcrafted rosewood table for a few grand, or bespoke Mahogany Double doors, you aren't necessarily paying over the odds.
Old 03 October 2008, 04:02 PM
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2k for a door ? I could have one hand made in solid oak and embossed with gold for less than that.
Old 03 October 2008, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Depends what you buy though doesn't it. I mean if you buy a handcrafted rosewood table for a few grand, or bespoke Mahogany Double doors, you aren't necessarily paying over the odds.
Of course a price is dependent on a product specification but that wasn't my point. With anything, you can be paying over the odds if you allow it.
Old 03 October 2008, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Bullock
Had a new front door fitted in March this year. Of course my wife couldn't have a bog standard thing and we ended up with a door with fancy surrounds with leaded glass, better locking system etc. All in all over £2000.00!!!

Anyhow the company took our £50.00 deposit and a few weeks later came and fitted the door.

Thing is that they have not sent me a bill for it or contacted me since!!

Do you think that I should pay the rest or wait and see if they contact me?

Feel a bit guilty but the money is in the bank earning interest.

Wife is chewing my ear to pay it now though.

Dave.
Damn I thought I'd never find you ....phew the kids will have meat at xmas....
Old 03 October 2008, 07:05 PM
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Two grand does SEEM a lot for a door, admittedly. But there are doors and doors. Top grade English/European oak, for example, is horrendously expensive; if it's a size that has to be made bespoke then you have British labour charges to pay; the thing might be 60mm thick or even more; the panelling might be extremely complex; it may have a multi-point locking system; a bespoke door may need a bespoke frame that can cope with it.

In short, two grand may not be too far out for the right job. Our firm made a pair of oak doors in a carved frame that came to over three grand last year IIRC.

Old 03 October 2008, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Only if you are daft enough to pay. I've just had 2 'fancy', oversized doors, a large bay window 5 other windows and 2 replacement panes supplied and fitted for £2,500.
I bet they look lovely, and will continue to do so for many years to come!
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2000 notes - i spect their embarrassed to send you the bill


- or do you live in a castle
Old 03 October 2008, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Depends on your definition of "fancy"

My Parents own a Door company have have done so for the last 30 years. £2K is not at all out of the ordinary when people want quality craftmanship. Of course it all depends n the property the door is being attached to.

If you have just spent £500K on a property, then is it really unreasonable to spend £2K on what is in effect a main feature of the outside of the house?
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