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Old 16 September 2008, 08:22 AM
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Why doesn't the Govt do something useful for once, like speak to the oil companies and get a date for when we can expect to see petrol come down?

Oil now at $88.

Useless tw@ts.
Old 16 September 2008, 08:40 AM
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Must have something to do with Ferrari and the FIA.
Old 16 September 2008, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Must have something to do with Ferrari and the FIA.


Surely it's McLarens fault?


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Ron Dennis for new Labour leader
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I don't think it will come down by itself because theres not alot of publicity on how 'cheap' oil is becoming.

It was in the papers everytime it went up so obviously everyone knew how expensive it was, but now its going down, not so many people know, so the dictator wont lower it just yet.
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Originally Posted by Scoobychick
Ron Dennis for new Labour leader
Bad idea, he isn't very good at keeping secrets!
Old 16 September 2008, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobychick
Ron Dennis for new Labour leader
I reckon he is far too sensible to take that job on!

Les
Old 16 September 2008, 03:15 PM
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simply because 67% of fuel costs are tax, BY FAR THE LARGEST PART! So its down to Broon to reduce petrol prices not shell/BP
Old 16 September 2008, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
simply because 67% of fuel costs are tax, BY FAR THE LARGEST PART! So its down to Broon to reduce petrol prices not shell/BP
Thats a misleading figure and you know it.

Fuel duty is a fixed rate - Not a percentage. As the oil price went up, the fuel duty did not.

The VAT applied at the end is ofc oourse a percentage, but, does not account for the over pricing we are seeing at the moment.

When oil was at $147, we had petrol at about £1.25 per litre.

Now it is $88 it should be around...

50.55p (duty)
30p (oil) (60% of the cost per litre at $147 per barrel)
3p (forecourt costs)
2p (forecourt profit)

=85.35
+ VAT@17.5% =14.93

Grand total = 100.28 pence per litre.

Anyone paying that yet?
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Thats a misleading figure and you know it.

Fuel duty is a fixed rate - Not a percentage. As the oil price went up, the fuel duty did not.

The VAT applied at the end is ofc oourse a percentage, but, does not account for the over pricing we are seeing at the moment.

When oil was at $147, we had petrol at about £1.25 per litre.

Now it is $88 it should be around...

50.55p (duty)
30p (oil) (60% of the cost per litre at $147 per barrel)
3p (forecourt costs)
2p (forecourt profit)

=85.35
+ VAT@17.5% =14.93

Grand total = 100.28 pence per litre.

Anyone paying that yet?
er,no 1.12p at tesco
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Nope. And i don't think we will this side of christmas, or until the countries economics are a bit better.
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Thats a misleading figure and you know it.

Fuel duty is a fixed rate - Not a percentage. As the oil price went up, the fuel duty did not.

The VAT applied at the end is ofc oourse a percentage, but, does not account for the over pricing we are seeing at the moment.

When oil was at $147, we had petrol at about £1.25 per litre.

Now it is $88 it should be around...

50.55p (duty)
30p (oil) (60% of the cost per litre at $147 per barrel)
3p (forecourt costs)
2p (forecourt profit)

=85.35
+ VAT@17.5% =14.93

Grand total = 100.28 pence per litre.

Anyone paying that yet?
Have you taken into consideration the fact that oil is price in USD and when oil was $147 the exchange rate was $2/£1 whereas now its about $1.77/£1 ?
Old 16 September 2008, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by subaruturbo_18
Nope. And i don't think we will this side of christmas, or until the countries economics are a bit better.
In economic terms, the Government would like nothing better thna a drop in fuel prices, due to the downward pressure this would exert on inflation.

Originally Posted by VJSTi

Have you taken into consideration the fact that oil is price in USD and when oil was $147 the exchange rate was $2/£1 whereas now its about $1.77/£1 ?
No, because, I am unsure of the actual affect that the exchange rate £/$ has on the price of UK petrol. I would be absolutely astonished if the price at the pump directly correlated to the exchange rate, because in almost all businesses there is some protection to the "standard cost" model built in to absorb exchange rate fluctuations.
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