Simon C

Looking at a new car and am considering a derv.

Question is, are the extra costs involved worth the fuel saving.

Cos if I've got my maths right, I am looking at a saving of just under £1000 compared with the scoob.

Thats assuming the powers don't hike the price of derv through the roof.

GaryK

Dont think you can really compare like for like because one gives you the performance and one doesnt! My last scoob was averaging 20mpg and now i've got 320d beemer which averages 47.5mpg but thats 150bhp compared to my old wr1 which was 320.

Simon C

The derv (with the right engine) will have about the same power as the scoob. I have a sport, which gets 30ish mpg.

Abdabz

I went from 02WRX to 04 Xtype diesel... From 25mpg to 47mpg... From £800 p/a ins to £300...
All that said - it isnt like for like as such... But in my eyes, I think that a 10% extra layout in fuel is returning me a 40% saving in mpg...

If you look at the new pug diesel stats, the 207 1.4p petrol avg's 40odd mpg and the diesel equiv averages over 60... It is worth it unless diesel becomes over 50% more expensive than petrol...

Servicing is a little dearer too, but not much in practice... Buying new adds a surcharge of a grand or three so it takes a wee while to see the savings if buying from new...

Hmmm

PeteBrant

Not just about th epower though is it.

I mean it no good thinking "oh this has 260BHP too", when it weighs 2 tonnes.

GC8WRX

And has an aga under the bonnet, so handles like a barge!

And sounds like a massey ferguson!

Simon C

I'm very fond of Massey's thank you!! I grew up around farms

corradoboy

Don't forget the torque My Fabia vRS with 312 lb/ft can out-drag many Scoobs during in-gear acceleration. Sure, they monster me in the corners, and leave me for dead in the wet, but I can get 60+ mpg and still reel them in on the straights.

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

Get a bike. Currently bombing around on a brand new R6 courtesy of Yamaha. 40+ mpg 130 bhp 0-60 faster than you'd dare try. right beast. No traffic issues either and (outside london) free parking!

belter.

5t.

Scooby Snacks 23

I went from a Volvo C70 T5 to an A3 Sportback 1.9TDi company car in March and reckon I'm saving a fortune in fuel bills.

The C70 was £75+ to fill up and did no more than 330 miles to a tank - the Audi's (now) about £65 to fill up and does nearly 550 to the tank.

Obviously I've got the P11D charge for the Audi (which was offset by a reduction in my pension contributions) but I'm well pleased with the amount I'm saving.

Would love to cycle to work, but I live 28 miles away.

Coffin Dodger

On a new car it used to be that you needed to be doing at least 15k miles a year to break even over a petrol doing the same mileage for about three years of ownership. This is due to the fact that diesels cost more to start with, servicing more expensive, and diesel itself costs more than petrol.

Now the gap has widened in the cost of diesel vs. petrol you probably need to be doing nearer 20k a year.

Buy second hand though and the savings can be gained much easier as the initial purchase cost difference will be much less.

Leslie

There is a lot to be said for enjoying yourself on a good bike. You can get through the traffic and enjoy the sort of performance that you cannot easily get in a car.

You do have to ride defensively though and expect someone might come out of any side turning that you might see.

Les

Simon C

I'll be buying 2nd hand anyway.

Coffin Dodger

And kill you. (as opposed to putting a big dent in your car)

greenonedave

I swoped my wrx in for a derv drinking beastie, it is saving me about £73.00 per thousand miles on fuel, ( I have done the maths) road tax next year will be around £280 per year cheaper, and the best bit which may seem silly but, I only have to fill it up every 560+ miles instead of every 270ish ( of the WRX)

R 14NS R

worked out on new merc c class, doing 12k per year, c200 petrol v c200 diesel, petrol price 116, diesel 133, car cost difference is £5, the diesel saves the buyer £93 per year in fuel, however residuels are £600 better for diesel so over 3 years diesel buyer will be about £1000 better off, but still had to drive the diesel!

phil_wrx

iTrader: (2)

kept the scoob for playin and using a 96 diesil escort i got for £350 been using it now for 6 weeks and only used £120 of fuel , i work 4 on 4 off and my commute is 82 mile round trip.
just filled it up today 30 litres of diesel and 20 ltrs of veg oil i picked up for a fiver loving every minute and means i can spend more on scoob

mannyo

Its not quiet as cut and dried as that statement, its not just the cost of fuel to consider.

I drive a diesel, yes fuel is more expensive to buy, but.

Road tax on my diesel is £120 per year, thats for a 2.0TDi with 140BHP,
Insurance is less than £250 per year,
My last major 60K service cost me £200, and the car is on variable servicing and did 20K from the last service to this one.

So my diesel is costing me a lot less to run than the petrol that went before it.

GaryCat

The new Subaru Lagacy diesel looks pretty good on paper, according to the figure is has better economy, CO2 & performance than the class-leading Honda 2.2 engine and is way ahead of VAG, Ford & Peugeot.