I fancy learning a martial art - but which one?
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I fancy learning a martial art - but which one?
As above, I fancy trying my hand at some sort of martial art as I have been recently increasing my fitnes levels.
I'm not really all that clued up on the different arts, but would like something which combines self-defence, over-powering an aggresor and applying joint-locks/submission techniques. I don't mind if it has a competitive element, but I'm not looking for something where I'm kicking seven shades out of strangers.
Any suggestions?
I'm not really all that clued up on the different arts, but would like something which combines self-defence, over-powering an aggresor and applying joint-locks/submission techniques. I don't mind if it has a competitive element, but I'm not looking for something where I'm kicking seven shades out of strangers.
Any suggestions?
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Aikido, it's as hard or soft as you want it to be, it's all about self defense and there is very little in the way of competition.
Think steven segal and your on the right lines only he's a plank and gets it wrong anyway.
YouTube - Excellent Aikido Demonstration
Think steven segal and your on the right lines only he's a plank and gets it wrong anyway.
YouTube - Excellent Aikido Demonstration
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Would not fancy one of them getting me into submission haha.
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You've pretty much described Jiu Jitsu, which I've been doing on and off for years. Jitsu is all about practical self-defence, not so much 'overpowering' an attacker but, instead, using your skill to minimise the physical effort you need to put in. The syllabus is very wide - no 'cornflake packet' black belt available! - and includes throws, joint locks, take-downs and groundwork as well as break-falling and, if you want, a Judo-like competitive element.
Have a look at The Jitsu Foundation's site to find your nearest club. First session is usually free.
Have a look at The Jitsu Foundation's site to find your nearest club. First session is usually free.
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segals akido away from the box is ok. silat as with most asian martial arts can be very esotoric. same with some japanese arts.
go to diferent classes and find a properly qualified instructor. there are so many martial arts that it would be impossible to list them all.
a few simple ones listed below every person has different requirements so u will have to experiment. but all true martial arts are not a 5 minute learning process. some like tai chi take many years to learn the fighting side.
akido throws and locks based on using opponents momentum to control and submit them, minimal striking. used mainly for distraction. weapons mainly, sword, knife and jo ( 5 foot stick)
ju jitsu, multiple weapons used, and unarmed techniques utilise throws, locks,
striking and kicking. samurai preffered martial art. this may have what you are looking for.
judo, mainly throwing for competiton, used to have some minimal striking but these were removed by most instructors in the west, although some still teach striking to more experienced students, also good for groundwork.
ninjutsu. forget the films the reality is very different as ju jitsu but with more emphasis on body movement than out and out power but extremely effective and dangerous look for bujinkan instructors although other styles do exist bujinkan is the organisation of the current grand master hatsumi sensei.
taekwondo korean striking and kicking mainly competition but has self defence capabillities as used by the korean army but no personal experience good for fitness levels. and suppleness.
karate based on punching kicking blocking, very linnear in its basic forms. most street forms of this martial art are *******ized versions of the current sport trend, but older styles still maintain there originall intentions.
chinese kung fu, wushu and kickboxing, a million different styles and i have no much experience although students i know who have trained in wing chun have benefitted from fitness and multiple striking. but am sure more experienced chinese style fighters on here will give you better information.
so these are a minority and my experience is mainly of japanese fighting.
ninjutsu and jujitsu being the most akin to mma thats mainly being practiced now hth
go to diferent classes and find a properly qualified instructor. there are so many martial arts that it would be impossible to list them all.
a few simple ones listed below every person has different requirements so u will have to experiment. but all true martial arts are not a 5 minute learning process. some like tai chi take many years to learn the fighting side.
akido throws and locks based on using opponents momentum to control and submit them, minimal striking. used mainly for distraction. weapons mainly, sword, knife and jo ( 5 foot stick)
ju jitsu, multiple weapons used, and unarmed techniques utilise throws, locks,
striking and kicking. samurai preffered martial art. this may have what you are looking for.
judo, mainly throwing for competiton, used to have some minimal striking but these were removed by most instructors in the west, although some still teach striking to more experienced students, also good for groundwork.
ninjutsu. forget the films the reality is very different as ju jitsu but with more emphasis on body movement than out and out power but extremely effective and dangerous look for bujinkan instructors although other styles do exist bujinkan is the organisation of the current grand master hatsumi sensei.
taekwondo korean striking and kicking mainly competition but has self defence capabillities as used by the korean army but no personal experience good for fitness levels. and suppleness.
karate based on punching kicking blocking, very linnear in its basic forms. most street forms of this martial art are *******ized versions of the current sport trend, but older styles still maintain there originall intentions.
chinese kung fu, wushu and kickboxing, a million different styles and i have no much experience although students i know who have trained in wing chun have benefitted from fitness and multiple striking. but am sure more experienced chinese style fighters on here will give you better information.
so these are a minority and my experience is mainly of japanese fighting.
ninjutsu and jujitsu being the most akin to mma thats mainly being practiced now hth
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Jujitsu sounds like it fits the bill. I'm also going to take a look at Aikido too.
I'm not looking to go out picking fights, but would like to use any skills to my advantage to neutralise an attacker should I be faced with confrontation.
I'm not looking to go out picking fights, but would like to use any skills to my advantage to neutralise an attacker should I be faced with confrontation.
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I've tried quiet a few in my time (muay thai, bujinkhan (ninjutsu), lau gar king fu, wado karate and now stuck with a very traditional form of shotokan karate (with the club roots back to Enoeda sensei).
Yes its very linear up to brown belt, then things get interesting and from that point it anything but linear. We now learn holds, throws, strikes, open hand and closed attacks plus groundwork, plus of course kicks and blocks etc.
Currently training for my Black belt, which I hope to take in Oct this year (taken me 6 years to get here).
My advice, try a few, like I did, and see what works for you.
Neil
Yes its very linear up to brown belt, then things get interesting and from that point it anything but linear. We now learn holds, throws, strikes, open hand and closed attacks plus groundwork, plus of course kicks and blocks etc.
Currently training for my Black belt, which I hope to take in Oct this year (taken me 6 years to get here).
My advice, try a few, like I did, and see what works for you.
Neil
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If you fancy something a bit different check out Krav Maga
A mixture of Muay Thai, Brazillian Ju-Jitsu and boxing amongst other things
Developed in Israel by and for their Armed Forces and Police
I've been doing it for three years and it's the dogs danglies
A mixture of Muay Thai, Brazillian Ju-Jitsu and boxing amongst other things
Developed in Israel by and for their Armed Forces and Police
I've been doing it for three years and it's the dogs danglies
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Im with NeilT, on this one.
I am a Dan grade in a traditional Shotokan club, which also can trace back to the same routes (rather than these Americanised Mc-Dojo's that hand out belts to everyone) and I would recommend it. There is not a session I do not come out drenched in sweat.
Things have gotten easier over time, 25 years ago my entire grading line was failed because just one of us teenagers (probably me) upset the Sensei grading us and that was it - all out without explanation. In the years since I have restarted and retaken all my belts, nothing like that has happend.
Having promoted Karate,- we do often have guest sensei from other disciplines come over for exchanges of methods and skills, and given the choice again, I might have chosen Ju-Jitsu for an easier self defence option.
(But, there probably is more to it, than I gained from one afternoon).
I am a Dan grade in a traditional Shotokan club, which also can trace back to the same routes (rather than these Americanised Mc-Dojo's that hand out belts to everyone) and I would recommend it. There is not a session I do not come out drenched in sweat.
Things have gotten easier over time, 25 years ago my entire grading line was failed because just one of us teenagers (probably me) upset the Sensei grading us and that was it - all out without explanation. In the years since I have restarted and retaken all my belts, nothing like that has happend.
Having promoted Karate,- we do often have guest sensei from other disciplines come over for exchanges of methods and skills, and given the choice again, I might have chosen Ju-Jitsu for an easier self defence option.
(But, there probably is more to it, than I gained from one afternoon).
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I did Kuk Sool Won for just over 2 years and it covers all the stuff you asked about and more and is very good for general fitness and body conditioning. If you google Kuk Sool Won you'll find plenty of video's, information and local schools.
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I have tried a couple of martial arts getting black belts but I had to give them up due to bad knee's and far too much jumping and spinning stuff for the 2nd/3rd dan so I kept with thai boixing and loved it. I did it for 12 years and think its the most fun of all them as its less formal, no belts and more for fitness but you learn to be a cracking boxer as well as good basic kicks, knees and elbows
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Mixed martial arts is the way forward in my opinion. It teaches you basic stand up aswell as ground stuff and wrestling etc. A complete all round self defence aswell as offensive should you require it.
I've never been a believer of all this arty marial arts, it can get a bit technical unlike MMA which is as close to street fighting as you can get but with some useful tecniques.
I've never been a believer of all this arty marial arts, it can get a bit technical unlike MMA which is as close to street fighting as you can get but with some useful tecniques.
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Jiu-jit-su is great, i used to attend weekend seminars with 8th dan billy doak who is a great bloke, but it can be a very harsh martial art, worth it if you put the effort in.
As for the segal comment he's kind of frowned in the aikido community as he's known for having a bit of an attitude problem so i tend to pick out the faults in his technique.
Our instructor was a doorman so knew a wide variety or arts which tbh is the best option in a fight that way you are rarely caught short but bear in mind aidiko is purely defensive, you can't initiate the frist move.
I studied traditional and budo aikido for 5 years but only came close to getting my 2nd brown as i wasn't a belt head and wanted to learn propely.
As someone else said give them all a try, you will soon find out what you like.
Heh what do you know billy doak is on youtube.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aFgztPJGrkc&feature=related
The woman he's throwing around is his wife and is a top lass.
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