r32

Perhaps this is the way it should be?


Don't get into trouble in Arizona

This Guy should run for president..

USA JAIL - SOME INTERESTING READING

TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO, HE IS THE MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF (ARIZONA) AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.




These are some of the reasons why:



Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the 'tent city jail' to save Arizona from spending tens of millions of dollars on another expensive prison complex.

He has jail meals down to 20 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.

He banned smoking and pornographic magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but 'G' movies. He says: 'They're in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave.'



He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on county and city projects and save taxpayer's money.



Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.

He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel.

When asked why the weather channel, he replied: 'So these morons will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.' He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a waste of taxpayer money. When the inmates complained, he told them, 'This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back.'

He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.

With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record for June 2nd 2007), the Associated Press reported: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed wire surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.



On the Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing pink boxer shorts were overheard chatting in the tents, where temperatures reached 112 degrees. 'This is hell. It feels like we live in a furnace,' said Ernesto Gonzales, an inmate for 2 years with 10 more to go. 'It's inhumane.' Joe Arpaio, who makes his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. 'Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for parole, only to go out and commit more crimes so they can come back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things many taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.'

The same day he told all the inmates who were complaining of the heat in the tents: 'It's between 120 to 130 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to walk all day in the sun, wearing full battle gear and get shot at, and they have not committed any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!'

Way to go, Sheriff! If all prisons were like yours there would be a lot less crime and we would not be in the current position of running out of prison spaces.


Sheriff Joe was just re-elected as Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona.

warrenm2

thought it was about time this one did the rounds again - it must be weeks since the last time....

r32

Sorry if you have seen it before........ I obviously havent so I just thought it may be of interest.

PeteBrant

I think that everyone that perpeatuates the myth that prisons are too easy, should be forced to go inside for a couple of weeks and see how many times you have to change your underwear or cry like a baby.

There's not one person here that wouldn't fvcking **** themselves if they ended up inside.

r32

Perhaps in the US, but there was some guy on the news last week saying its like a holiday camp, never having been there I cant say for definite.

GC8WRX

Dont talk soft! i have mates that have done time and said it was a piece of pi55 as long as you dont let anyone try to bully you!

My mate had a fight on the second day, did the bully over and after that he was cool with everyone!

Most people in prisons are 9 stone smack heads in for robbery or stabbing someone, you can throw them round like an empty shell suit!

Its the guys who have been in there long enough to build up to 15 stoners you need to worry about, but most of them are near parole so wont fight!

PeteBrant

I;ve seen mates go int there pretty well adjusted and come out heroin addicts. I've seen very big , very strong blokes go in and almost lose it on the first night.

Its not just that either, its the boredom factor, the loss of freedon to do what you want to do when you want to do it.

Which is why you see a lot of people saying" oh ****" if it looks like they are going to go inside again rahter than "oh great".

Leslie

I am sure that I would feel exactly like you say if I would up in jug.

It is difficult to comprehend however how prison can really have a significant effect on those who are habitual criminals. We hear now from an inmate who I think is in for murder that it is more like a holiday camp compared to how it used to be with all the privileges that they enjoy now, even having to be called by first names by the officers!

In the days when they had to share cells, had no privileges worth speaking about, had to "slop out", had no significant rights etc. and would spend the day having to do some hard physical work, the prison population was very much smaller and the thought of a spell of "porridge" was a very strong deterrent.

Those were also the days when this was very much a law abiding country.

Why should those who steal and attack people etc. expect any kind of special treatment anyway?

Les

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Pete, you are right to a certain extent, but us on here arent the target market, we are I assume generally law abiding and manage to avoid trouble but as you say if for instance I ended up inside I would indeed poo myself at the thought, but then I get butterflies at a week away from home with work.

However, there are a lot of really unpleasant characters locked up for doing some bad stuff, why make life easy for them, it shouldnt be comfortable, the food should be crap and they should not want to go back, ever, thats the point. I am not saying it should be like the Shawshank Redemption but my uncle was a warder and a mate a PE instructor who said it was generally cushier than it should be.

The way I see it, losing your liberty is the main thing but a lot get used to that, it becomes your reality, humans are adaptable but lazy so after the initial upheaval you get used to it, especially if you have structure and comforts, prison should never be more comfortable than freedom.

GC8WRX

Agree 100%!

I know of people in prison with mobiles, top up tv, 3 square meals a day and all the class a's you could want cheaper that "the outside"

It shouldnt be a nice place to be, it should be a hell hole that people dont want to revisit!

The Chief

I have to agree with Pete on this one,(thats a first)
they shouldn't be an easy ride but there not as cushy as people think but i've known some big nasty people go inside and i'll tell you something not one told me that it was a doddle when they were inside and all have said they just kept their heads low because there is always someone bigger and tougher.

I'm not soft but i would crap myself big time if i was sent down.

(thats why i'm a good boy)


Applaud the sheriff though


***edited*** open prisons are meant to be dead cushy

GC8

Oh, the irony.

Jerome

Funnily enough I got that sheriff story in an email yesterday. Even though I heard of him before, this time I Wikipedia'd him and he isn't quite as great as the above cherry-picked details make him out to be. I still prefer most of his methods to the wishy washy crap that pervades prisons nowadays.

Any "luxuries" that a prisoner gets should be earned after a period of good behaviour. Any bad behaviour and *all* privileges are lost for a period of time.

I also think your sentence should be the minimum amount of time you serve. Bad behaviour gets time added on rather than time taken off.

Prisons in the western world are cushy compared to countries further afield.

Still doesn't prevent/deter crime in those countries though.

OllyK

And yet a number of people who have been interviewed that are repeat offenders stated they were so because it was such an easy life in prison. Something corroborated by a friend who works as a warder.

248SPG

The thought of what a prison would be like is enough to keep me on the straight and narrow!!!

I think all these people who say it is cushy and repeat offend do so becuase maybe in there world the standard of living they enjoy (or not) would be higher in Prison than in the outside world.

If you had just come out of prision you would find it very hard to get a job with a record let alone one that pays decently well to be able to afford, shelter, and food on clothes on your back, especially with todays rising costs of Food and Bills etc. Hence they can go and mug someone and spend another year at her majesty's pleasure with a warm bed and 3 meals a day for some manual work during the daylight hours!!!

Then again if you were a drug addict any money you would earn would all go probably go on drugs anyway so again would not be able to afford a standard of living in comparison to prison.

PeteBrant

Compared with life outside for them , yes.

Is that a reflection on prison being "easy" or the utter depravity of thier existance on the outside?

I would say that your opinion of how hard or easy prison is depends entirely on you life on the outside.

And if someone finds prison "easy" then god only know what kind of nightmare they are in on the outside.

speedymonkey

The thing that p1sses me off is the tax payer (all us lot!) has to foot the bill for their life behind bars,
so why after a thieving scum bag gets caught pinching say a car, should a small % of my wages be spend on there comfort/education
whilst they are laying about feeling bored watching TV and playing dominos

Im sure it wont be the nicest place in the world in prison, but tought ****, THEY
should of thought of that before they stole/burgled/stabbed/raped etc!

I think Sheriff Joe has it right, good man

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Perhaps after five separate stints, execution ?

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

3 strikes then out, and young offenders conscripted into the army after thei first offence.

Rudolph Hooker

well now , my brother was in jail for two years, he had a great time. It is the loss of freedom that is the hard part, but its closer to Butlins than you can imagine. He says (and he's only a small bloke) that it wouldnt bother him to go back. This is not guess work this is from the horses mouth.....

Not pure conjecture like some on here...........

Coc-ker

iTrader: (1)

Prison should be pure hell. If anyone is unlucky enough to end up in there they should be be physically and mentally destroyed enough to make them never even contemplate committing a crime again, for fear of being sent down again.

Once their sentence is served, conscription should follow, with the full laddette to lady treatment. Build them back up to be civilised before they enter the forces proper.

Hoppy

Prison should be a strong deterrent (however you want to define that) but most of all about rehabilitation.

Just locking people up and having them buggered senseless is utterly counter-productive. Unless you are purely after revenge, in which case YOU are merely continuing the process of degradation in society.

Richard.

jods

What is the average jail cell size?

We could solve overcrowding by making each cell 6'x6'x6'.
No TV
No Mags

Save carbon footprint by turning lights on at 5AM to 6AM only

swampster

iTrader: (1)

My nephew has been inside 4 times now *I think*... might be more. He says prison is absolutely no deterrent for him. While he does say he'd rather be outside obviously (mainly 'cos he can't get a beer' on the inside - although there's plenty of alternatives), it's no great shakes if he ends up back inside.

He says yeah it is boring, but they've got the TV in the cell, 'the food is great' and he used to spend a couple of hours a day on the internet, sometimes even on chat sites.

jods

No to Internet - friggin' baffles me that they get this stuff.

Should be a 6ft cube - battleship gray

With recessed fluorescent light.

cster

I guess the deterrent effect of prison depends on your standard of life outside.
If your life is ****, I guess it is not a problem.
I like it when people say we should copy the USA on things like prison sentencing and the death penalty because it is pretty obvious to the observer that these policies have not resulted in low crime rates there.

Leslie

When the death penalty was administered in this country, a murder was pretty well front page news because there were so few compared to what we have now.

Les