RRH

Off to Silverstone soon for the Grand Prix, so its time to get the peugeot beer scooter serviced..

Anyway, I recently got a whiff of Castrol R and it brought back a whole lot of memories- so I wondered if I can use it in the fuel in the scooter? I'm guessing I can't use it in the two stroke tank as it would be too thick- but has anyone got any thoughts as to whether it can be done?

Thanks

unclebuck

Just add a teaspoonful directly into the petrol. That'll give you that lovely Castrol R whiff! It will gum up the carb eventually though.

GC8

But itll smell f*cking brilliant in the mean time . The smell of Castrol R really takes me back.....

RRH

You and me both...

not too bothered about it gumming up the carb- I rent a unit to a harley specialist and his mechanics are top blokes and sort out any issues we have with the beer scooters- although, tbh, we've had them for years and have never had a single problem with them!

So you reckon I just add to fuel and not run it through the autolube ?

unclebuck

Yep. So it goes straight to where you want it - in the combustion chamber!

GC8

You can use R30 in the lube system yes. Castor based oils 'go off' very very quickly if premixed (it seperates too!)! It should work well enough, up until it gums up your innards, as UB has suggested already. Its alright with race engines which are regularly stripped and cleaned. Its never alright in the wointer because it will be far too thick to be injected.....

Shark Man

Clutch might not like it if its wet plate clutch (centrifugal or conventional).

But the smell...hmmm.

Slippy clutch or evocative smell, thats a tough one

As an aside, one can get fragrant fuel additives that give off various smells out the exhaust: Manhattan Oil Fuel Fragrances - summitracing.com

GC8

Smell please.

Shark Man

Anyhoo, I'm talking about my ****: 2strokes don't have unit/integrated crankcase/transmissions, so the engine oil wouldn't do squat to the clutch

p1mark

The main problem with it is it Gums up the piston rings. The rings then stick and cant move about, they wear prematurely and you loose power. It also fouls spark plugs up like f*ck if you are running around at low RPM as you would be on a road bike.

It's long been outdated as an oil on Racing 2 strokes anyway. You Can get some very nice smelling synthetics if you are purely after the smell. Just go to a MX meet, when you find the bike that smells the best ask the rider what oil he is using and you are in business....

unclebuck

The 2 stroke oil I use in my trials bike (Sherco) is strawberry 'flavour'. Get loads of comments about how nice it smells.

The Zohan

Ahh Castrol R, takes me back to watching the late and great Barry Sheene at Brands when i was a lad, love the smell.

What trials bike you got UB?

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

just drip a bit onto a hot exhaust when you need a fix.

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

Bloody junkies!

RRH

It only gets used once a year, and is pretty much at max revs the whole time- used as a ferry between the BRDC and the pits at Silverstone.

Poor old thing- I'm surprised its lasted so long

I'll get some redex to sort the gumming up- but tbh it only cost me a couple of hunderd quid and we've had years out of it, so it owes me nothing, and I truly believe it would rather die quickly, smelling lovely- like a true motorsport legend- rather than have a life of mediocrity and nondescript smoky smells

This is turning in to quite an amusing thread

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Slightly different tack, but when I was but a mere lad, my mate couldn't afford, or was too tight, to put proper 2 stroke in his Suzuki GP100 rent a wreck. So for a while he tried running it on a mixture of Duckhams 20/50 that he "borrowed" from his tight-**** Dad, and Mazola corn oil to thin it down. It did the job for a while, but being behind him you got a strong waft of burnt chips. I couldn't bear the smell, so in the end I bought him a bottle of 2 stroke as a birthday present. Shortly after that the engine seized, as the oil turned into a strange green jelly, and the git blamed me!

Must admit, the Castrol whiff reminds me of motor sport, and I'm glad I'm not going mad, as I was sure I'd smelt fruit emanating from a couple of scooters recently.

r32

Dont use R in the scooter. Also Castrol R will coat all the bearing surfaces and will prevent any oil added afterwards getting to where it needs to be. It WILL seize up. It is possible to add R after draining out mineral oil but not the other way round. So once you have used R other than a total strip down and clean you will have to stay with it. It may smell nice but it isnt up to modern oil standards.

GC8

Conversely: castor based oils like R30/R40 have a far higher ability to deal with 'big thud' than any current synthetic. Thats why its still used by many in very high revving engines.....

Leslie

We always used to put a liitle bit of it into the petrol, we were all hooked on the smell.

Les

RRH

Maybe we need to suggest an 'old buggers' forum, as I bet the youngsters don't have a clue what we're talking about....

Leslie

Did you mean "Senior hooligan"!

Les

RRH

maybe

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Great, we could talk about 5 star petrol, Esso Blue, listening to the wireless, or the radiogram, waiting for the valves to warm up before you can watch the news in B&W, God Save The Queen before the film at "the pictures", Thruppeny bits, shillings.....oh the good old days

r32

Perhaps a "how old are you" thread might be worth having ............ and I thought I was the eldest.

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Not quite what you wanted but,

well-done-those-born-before-1980

Leslie

You remembered!

Les