mart360

Told you so springs to mind!!!

ID cards 'may be used to spy on us' - MSN News UK - news & weather


blows the

"if you've got nothing to hide, there's nothing to worry about" argument apart.


Its all about control, pure and simple.

Mart

NotoriousREV

It's one thing warning people, but what are you actually doing about it? One assumes you are heeding your own advice on this...

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

I heard on the news today that mp's are concerned we are being turned into a police state

DCI Gene Hunt

That's alright then, with the likely increase in paperwork they'll never be able to properly monitor us....

boxst

It doesn't really give much more power than is available now: GIve me your mobile number and I could track wherever you are. Find me an image on a CCTV camera and I can track your movements for the rest of eternity (not in real time). I can see the websites you browse, read your email, listen to your telephone conversations. I know what you buy, or if you pay in cash how much cash you pay in and get out of your bank accounts. Give me your car registration and I can track where you drive.

Steve

DYK

LOL if i give you the Bar code number off a packet of Condoms,would you be able to know when im having Sex,and who with..

mart360

Only if its turned on matey


Only if i am seen by cctv, with my head down, or hood up, you ain't got a chance

Re the rest of the stuff,

Now these are the things that the govstapo, says aren't tracked or used for those purposes.

now who's kidding who


Ive got nothing to hide, but why the hell soul i entrust more of my private data to a bunch of power crazed loons.

if teflon or mc bottle had " the football" , the,d have pressed the button by now,


all in the interests of national saftey of course.



Mart

you going back stateside soon steve?

Scoobychick

iTrader: (1)

I'm not sure we'd want to

PaulC72

LOl only after you've paid

Joking aside it makes no real difference if we have the ID cards as we already need to produce our passport, driving licence or other id to do certain things so another card will not IMO make us more or less tracable, either way I am not that fussed.

boxst

No, but I could certainly know about that nasty rash you got when you forgot to buy them and the medication you took to treat it.


Mart: I've changed jobs (From the company that does quite a lot of what I mentioned above ) to one that is purely EMEA based. There is a meeting in a couple of months though in America. Let me know if you want anything.

Steve

Leslie

It is worth reading Orwell's "Animal Farm" followed by "1984" and then you will be easily able to work out their secret agenda. Orwell's real name may well be significant as well!

Les

Clarebabes

I recently read 1984 and it was scary

I don't know how we get around not having an id card though - they are going to stop you having a passport if you don't have one. Is it all a rouse to get people to holiday in Torquay?

speedking

But you don't have to carry them with you at all times under the threat of arrest and detention for 42 days if you don't. Nip out to the paper shop with the 'wrong' jacket on and you might be gone for some time Lose your ID card and you will be virtually housebound until you 'prove' you are who you say you are.

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

so what about us Brits who live abroad but go on holiday to England, will we get arrested at Dover for not having an ID card???

Leslie

You will probably be asked for your "papers" at any time on the streets, just like the rest of us Wurzel!

Les

SiDHEaD

The only thing bothering me about it is we will have to pay to have it

coolangatta

what was that really good Black Sabbath album from the early 70's?

...erm......

Oh Yes!....PARANOID.......

r32

Is that really the only thing bothering you about the scheme?

r32

It will creep, it will spread, you will have to carry it where ever you go, you could be asked to provide it on request. It is also expected that retail outlets will insist on seeing it before you are allowed to buy anything. The Government are so sure that its fool proof they dont currently have any contingency should some one steal your identity. One IS company were asked to crack a card and duplicate it managed to do it (the first time) in under 30 minutes.

I just wont have one, if they do come in they I'll move abroad.

scoobynewbie72

iTrader: (1)

If we all stand together and refuse what can they do, There isn't the room to imprison us all, this is part of the problem now days people don't want to stand up for themselves they would rather moan about it to mates/online etc
We need to start doing something about it, its the same with fuel/council tax etc etc we moan about the prices but do NOTHING about it, the few that do get of there **** end up as a minority and are belittled by others.

coolangatta

Likelihood is that you'll move right into a society that has the ID system your running away from.
I've carried one constantly for the last six years, yes six years, without ever, and I mean ever in six years, being asked to show it on an impromptu basis.
I have, however, used it to my advantage in situations where my passport/birth certificate would have been required otherwise.

As I've previously intimated, being paranoid is not a reasonable stance or argument.

boomer

coolangatta - ever heard of STEALTH??

mb

mart360

But you dont live in the UK do you?

Our f*cked up bunch are so paranoid, it will be compulsory, taxed and turned into a criminal offence of you fail to carry one at ALL times,

you can bet your bottom dollar that firms will be set up to carry out random checks, (all for monitoring purposes) to confirm the effectiveness of the scheme)

all fines will be kept by the private firm to cover there setup & running costs. yada yada


Mart

Maz

iTrader: (34)

The films are pretty good too. Especially 1984 with the late Peter Cushing. 'All animals are equal but some are more equal than others'.

Leslie

Wasn't that "Animal Farm"? Same chap wrote it though.

Les

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

Nice try Les, I heard about that one way back when I was attending secondary school and if I didn't see the VHS, there is no way I'm reading the book!

Diesel

This ID card thing is one more opportunity for proper dedicated crims and terrorists to get ahead - and all at the expense of us normal citizens.

Did anyone see that TV prog that got a fake of the home secretary's driving licence made? Utterly convincing and proof that more bits of plastic and computer cataloguing us is futile.

Will Labour listen and can they see the wood from the trees? Nope, and as usual they pi$$ our hard earnt up against the wall. Still ID cards will be jobs for the boys with nice final salary pensions I'm sure

D

Leslie

Yes but they don't want to take any notice of the wood anyway Diesel, its all for their own reasons and which are of no advantage to us.

New Scooby 04,

Its an entertaining read -well written

Les