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Old 25 March 2008, 10:55 PM
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Red face Tata is new owner of Jaguar!!

Tata is India's biggest vehicle maker and now owns Jaguar!!

Will we see a Tata XJS on every Street Corner?
Old 25 March 2008, 10:57 PM
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build quality will improve than, perhaps its not a bad thing
Old 25 March 2008, 11:04 PM
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Gets my goat: German Sate railways has bought the freight arm of the ex-British rail.

THEN: Tata Steal buys Corus Steel, now Tata buys Jaguar.

These guys are supposed to be third world, FFS

How TF can they afford to buy the UK out??????????????

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Old 25 March 2008, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Gets my goat: German Sate railways has bought the freight arm of the ex-British rail.

THEN: Tata Steal buys Corus Steel, now Tata buys Jaguar.

These guys are supposed to be third world, FFS

How TF can they afford to buy the UK out??????????????

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They can probably spell

Seriously, though, we live in a global economy. India has pockets of immense wealth and is the world's most populous country - no real surprise they're buying up both quality assets and sh1te like Jaguar. Perhaps the next jaguar will look less like an American tank than the thing they've just launched.

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Old 25 March 2008, 11:11 PM
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you can say tata to jaguar then ...... get it


jags are **** anyways
Old 25 March 2008, 11:15 PM
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They make the worlds cheapest car - £1300!!

Tata Nano - world's cheapest new car is unveiled in India - Times Online
Old 25 March 2008, 11:20 PM
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lol quality motor then


wonder what an ncap test would fair on that ****e
Old 25 March 2008, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by M444GY
lol quality motor then


wonder what an ncap test would fair on that ****e
Quite. Would they jaggy make it to the test site?
Old 25 March 2008, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Quite. Would they jaggy make it to the test site?
probably not lol
Old 25 March 2008, 11:45 PM
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Bit slow picking up on this Pete.

Good luck to them. Jaguar have problems. One reason being they've shut out part of their market through blind ignorance:

I quite fancy an XF v8....but unlike BMW counterparts, it has no manual option. And I hate automatics - no matter how advanced. (with exception of diesel autos and off-roaders) Therfore will never buy one.

How can they sway buyers from BMW if they don't give the options?
Old 26 March 2008, 02:02 AM
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Bhaj e-type. <Gets coat>
Old 26 March 2008, 08:41 AM
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Everywhere around the jag factory looks like India anyway..They may as well own it now
Old 26 March 2008, 09:23 AM
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It said on the news this morning that Tata werent planning on laying off anyone in the UK until at least 2011 !!! So in 3 years, they'll dump the entire British workforce and move it all to India where they can pay their workers a couple of quid a day and not worry about unions, health and safety etc...
Old 26 March 2008, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeCardiff
It said on the news this morning that Tata werent planning on laying off anyone in the UK until at least 2011 !!! So in 3 years, they'll dump the entire British workforce and move it all to India where they can pay their workers a couple of quid a day and not worry about unions, health and safety etc...
Surely not

Gordon Brown will never allow it to happen

Oh, wait........the factory's not in Scotland or the South East....it doesn't matter then

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Originally Posted by Shark Man

Good luck to them. Jaguar have problems. One reason being they've shut out part of their market through blind ignorance:
You only have to look at the TV advert for the new XF...........what fekkin target group is THAT sh!te aimed at ?

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Old 26 March 2008, 12:02 PM
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As far as I know, they have recently bought Landrover as well.

I think TATA own pretty much the whole world anyway, its one of those companies you have never really heard of, but have their hand in everything.
Old 26 March 2008, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
You only have to look at the TV advert for the new XF...........what fekkin target group is THAT sh!te aimed at ?

Alcazar
Pass LMAO

My best guess is new age Buy-to-Letters supported by Daddy and maxxed on finance, and sneers at anyone who walks over the threashold of a Topman or River Island store.

Certainly a minority
Old 26 March 2008, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Gets my goat: German Sate railways has bought the freight arm of the ex-British rail.

THEN: Tata Steal buys Corus Steel, now Tata buys Jaguar.

These guys are supposed to be third world, FFS

How TF can they afford to buy the UK out??????????????

Alcazar
Cause there's billions of them!
Old 26 March 2008, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeCardiff
It said on the news this morning that Tata werent planning on laying off anyone in the UK until at least 2011 !!! So in 3 years, they'll dump the entire British workforce and move it all to India where they can pay their workers a couple of quid a day and not worry about unions, health and safety etc...
My thoughts exactly. Plus, how much does it cost to develop a brand new car? £Billions. Can't see tata doing that. So expect to see Rover all over again. Same designs/floorplans with facelifts every 10 years.

Interior quality will suffer the most in years to come. IMHO.

Like you say, no job cuts untill 2011. Why pay a British worker £500 a week, when a Indian worker will work for less than that a year.

Begining of the end if you ask me.
Old 26 March 2008, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Surely not

Gordon Brown will never allow it to happen

Alcazar
Oh yes he will. Won't supprise me if Tata are going to get a Government Grant out of this. Soon as that's ran out, off they'll go.
Old 26 March 2008, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Oh yes he will. Won't supprise me if Tata are going to get a Government Grant out of this. Soon as that's ran out, off they'll go.
No doubt spear-headed by an American who used to work for a big US auto manufacturer. With the business vision of building a radical new car and setting up manufacturing in a run-down area in the UK to aid local regeneration.

Old 26 March 2008, 12:31 PM
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I think theyv bought it to push Jaguar old & current designs in India & Asia market mainly. I dont think theyl be bringing out innovative new designs etc to compete with European & US car manufacturers. Not for many years anyway IMO.
Old 26 March 2008, 01:07 PM
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Globalisation works both ways Damn ugly that new Jag though - hope they got a discount? I think these guys also bought Tetley, and my tea is just as good!

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What will this mean for Ford now ? Are they really any closer to being out of debt?
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Originally Posted by D6ale
What will this mean for Ford now ? Are they really any closer to being out of debt?
No.
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Could do with binning Mazda too IMO

Barring the MX5 and RX8 they don't make anything that Ford don't already have as competing products in the US, UK and EU (Mondeo vs Madza 6, Focus vs Mazda 3 etc).

Unless they still have some handy powertrain resources still worth keeping?

Although it comes to something that Ford uses Volvo's 5pot engine....bearing in mind, it wasn't very long ago that Volvo were buying in engines from Renault
Old 26 March 2008, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Tata is India's biggest vehicle maker and now owns Jaguar!!

Will we see a Tata XJS on every Street Corner?
Why the surprise Pete?

Its been on the cards (and widely publicised) for months now.
Old 26 March 2008, 02:37 PM
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If a car can survive the harsh landscape of Bombay's gridlocked roads and streets then it can survive anywhere.

What is going on, things people identified as british are being exported/sold off.. I hope we don't end up like the US where everything is imported in and nothing is exported out
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Originally Posted by finalzero
What is going on, things people identified as british are being exported/sold off.. I hope we don't end up like the US where everything is imported in and nothing is exported out
We became that a while ago, we dont manufacture anymore, we've lost any self sufficiency we once had, and now are a consumer in the massive global market.

Anyone know what our biggest export is now? apart from expats.
Old 26 March 2008, 04:22 PM
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Actually, looks like we are still ahead of USA and Japan, so not that bad:

Despite having less than one per cent of the world’s population, Britain is one of the largest trading nations in the world. In 2002, Britain had a 4.4 per cent share of the world trade in exports and a 5.3 per cent share of imports. Britain exports more per head than either the United States or Japan. Machinery and transport, manufactured goods and chemicals are Britain’s largest export earners.


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