Maz

iTrader: (34)

I think it's probably a good idea to instill virtue and patriotism into children. The idea has it's critics and detractors but pledging allegiance to Queen and Country and restoring some good old fashioned values isn't a bad thing.

The Zohan

Not too sure about queen and country, country yes, Queen, why?

I do not have a problem with the queen or manarchy as such (well some of them are complete pr@ts) and they are good for tourism. Just not sure in modern times they are that relevant in this case...

David Lock

They can exclude queenie if they want. dl

Martin2005

I know why they are saying this, but I think it's a bonkers idea and gesture politics at it's worst - I think the government need to take a day off!

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

Totally bonkers.

People will just go through the motions, and that is if you can get them to the ceremony at all. Values come from a lot more than standing in a hall uttering a few words. It is not going to have any impact on the people you are wanting to change.

The Zohan

editied for accuracy

Martin2005

Now now, we'll only end up with another bunch of useless pillocks, it is probably time though for a hand over of pillockery

Leslie

I cannot think what sort of good that would ever do-more likely to be the opposite to what that prat Goldsmith was saying.

Yet another Initiative designed to attempt to take the public's eye off the giant ****-up thay have made over the last eleven years or so. Its all coming home to roost now!

Les

The Zohan

Very true, and we have to put up with this shower of ***** for another two years.

CrisPDuk

They do like papering over the cracks don't they

Why don't we just go back to educating them properly in the first place, and instill a real sense of respect into them from an early age


Oh, silly me That would then be paramount to an admission that the great Labour comprehensive education 'experiment' is a failure

Prasius

iTrader: (1)

I think its something that should have been introduced a very long time ago. Many of the problems with British society now come from the fact that everyone is out for their own ends, and don't see themselves as part of something larger and more important than just "Them".

We're social creatures but it seems to me that the social conscience part of us has been forgotten in favour of individual rights and needs; anything that engenders a feeling of belonging to something "bigger" in our society is a good thing. IMO.

dee052

iTrader: (1)

I think its a good idea and if you don't like it..... Move.

Devildog

But what Country?

You will have the Scots swearing allegance to Scotland (nothing new, we do it at every given opportunity when drink is involved )
The English swearing allegance to England and the Welsh and Irish likewise.

Talk about striking a divide?

The problem is, and its about time someone figured this out, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and the Channel Islands is not just England.

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

no, the idea was that the people in Scotland pledge an allegiance to their English Queen. The interviewer on the radio soon pointed out how short sited that was going to be

Sonic'

Im still waiting for us to become the United States of Great Britain, after all aren't we the 53rd state already