TV viewing angles??
31 January 2008, 03:17 PM
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TV viewing angles??
please help me 
i have just returned my 5th 19" lcd tv since xmas. when my daughter is in bed she cant watch the tv as the picture goes black
i have seen in the spec's on different tv's that the viewing angle can differ from tv to tv. sometimes its 170 x170 degrees ore 150 degrees. you can see the picture from the side of the tv but when your head is lower than the tv you lose the picture.
can anyone tell me what is the smallest viewing angle that will work.
thanks
and its not just cheap tv's that have this problem but it does seem to be the smaller ones
i have just returned my 5th 19" lcd tv since xmas. when my daughter is in bed she cant watch the tv as the picture goes black
i have seen in the spec's on different tv's that the viewing angle can differ from tv to tv. sometimes its 170 x170 degrees ore 150 degrees. you can see the picture from the side of the tv but when your head is lower than the tv you lose the picture.
can anyone tell me what is the smallest viewing angle that will work.
thanks
and its not just cheap tv's that have this problem but it does seem to be the smaller ones
31 January 2008, 03:21 PM
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The viewing angle (I beleive) can differ depending on how the screen is made. Some have very small angles, others very wide.
For instance, the cheap LCDs we got with computers in work are made in one way and have very wide angles. The rather expensive 22" screen I have for my home PC has a very narrow angle and doesn't take much movement to be unwatchable.
Can you not jus tilt the screen so she can see better say from her bed? Our daughter only really watches TV when in bed so we angle the TV so she can see it clearly from her bed.
For instance, the cheap LCDs we got with computers in work are made in one way and have very wide angles. The rather expensive 22" screen I have for my home PC has a very narrow angle and doesn't take much movement to be unwatchable.
Can you not jus tilt the screen so she can see better say from her bed? Our daughter only really watches TV when in bed so we angle the TV so she can see it clearly from her bed.
31 January 2008, 03:24 PM
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The viewing angle (I beleive) can differ depending on how the screen is made. Some have very small angles, others very wide.
For instance, the cheap LCDs we got with computers in work are made in one way and have very wide angles. The rather expensive 22" screen I have for my home PC has a very narrow angle and doesn't take much movement to be unwatchable.
Can you not jus tilt the screen so she can see better say from her bed? Our daughter only really watches TV when in bed so we angle the TV so she can see it clearly from her bed.
For instance, the cheap LCDs we got with computers in work are made in one way and have very wide angles. The rather expensive 22" screen I have for my home PC has a very narrow angle and doesn't take much movement to be unwatchable.
Can you not jus tilt the screen so she can see better say from her bed? Our daughter only really watches TV when in bed so we angle the TV so she can see it clearly from her bed.
if i could glue my daughter to the bed i could leave the tv angled low but she is never in one place for long
Ed, you sound like you know what you are talking about.........do you know what the correct angle is?
31 January 2008, 03:32 PM
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I have a 17" Phillips in the bedroom, mounted about 12" from the ceiling, never had a problem viewing it standing or lying in bed.
Have you had your eyes checked?
Have you had your eyes checked?
31 January 2008, 03:44 PM
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Viewing angles quoted by manufacturers are optimistic at best and pure lies at worst.
TN Film based LCD is the worst for viewing angles. IPS are considered the better for viewing angles.
TN Film, MVA, PVA and IPS - Panel Technologies
This link should muddy the waters even further and are monitor based but no different from a TV as its a monitor with a TV tuner.
Only thing to do is either ask how the panel is made which will cause you no end of blank looks, or just try to find the best position.
Our daughter has a little 17" LCD and she watches it at nighttime. Stood underneath it you can't see anything buts fine from her bed.
TN Film based LCD is the worst for viewing angles. IPS are considered the better for viewing angles.
TN Film, MVA, PVA and IPS - Panel Technologies
This link should muddy the waters even further and are monitor based but no different from a TV as its a monitor with a TV tuner.
Only thing to do is either ask how the panel is made which will cause you no end of blank looks, or just try to find the best position.
Our daughter has a little 17" LCD and she watches it at nighttime. Stood underneath it you can't see anything buts fine from her bed.
31 January 2008, 03:52 PM
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Viewing angles quoted by manufacturers are optimistic at best and pure lies at worst.
TN Film based LCD is the worst for viewing angles. IPS are considered the better for viewing angles.
TN Film, MVA, PVA and IPS - Panel Technologies
This link should muddy the waters even further and are monitor based but no different from a TV as its a monitor with a TV tuner.
Only thing to do is either ask how the panel is made which will cause you no end of blank looks, or just try to find the best position.
Our daughter has a little 17" LCD and she watches it at nighttime. Stood underneath it you can't see anything buts fine from her bed.
TN Film based LCD is the worst for viewing angles. IPS are considered the better for viewing angles.
TN Film, MVA, PVA and IPS - Panel Technologies
This link should muddy the waters even further and are monitor based but no different from a TV as its a monitor with a TV tuner.
Only thing to do is either ask how the panel is made which will cause you no end of blank looks, or just try to find the best position.
Our daughter has a little 17" LCD and she watches it at nighttime. Stood underneath it you can't see anything buts fine from her bed.
i spose the best thing is to look at the tv's on display. i spent an hour bobbing up and down with the manager looking at viewing angles this afternoon, he didnt have a clue, like you say, blank look
it wasnt like this in the olden days
31 January 2008, 04:07 PM
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31 January 2008, 04:47 PM
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nope, you call any store to ask what 17" screens they have and they are not getting any new models in, seems to be the same everywhere
i only want a 17" screen anyway. all new tv's are being made with freeview as standard now. 19" is too big
31 January 2008, 05:20 PM
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Well my misses works for an AV firm and she's having no trouble getting 17" screens. There's loads of them on the internet so I don't see what the problem is.
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Normally LCD panels have a bias on the vertical of the viewing angle one way or another. This is known as 6 oclock and 12 oclock.
A six oclock panel will look better from below and a 12 oclock panel will oclock better from above.
IPS panels are new and very expensive and are not widley used (if at all) in the tv market at the moment.
17" is a bad size to want as most of the major panel manufacturers have or are pulling out of this size.
AUO,Chei mei,Samsung and sharp.
Toshiba have a 17" wide ips panel just on the market but for industrial use.
And the only other is mitsubishi wich again tends to be for industrial use.
I would go for a slightly bigger size(if you want wide screen).
Oh and plasma will always give better viewing angles from all sides!
And before you ask I know all this because I sell Panels into the industrial market and deal with the manufacturers direct. I dont sell TV,S though
A six oclock panel will look better from below and a 12 oclock panel will oclock better from above.
IPS panels are new and very expensive and are not widley used (if at all) in the tv market at the moment.
17" is a bad size to want as most of the major panel manufacturers have or are pulling out of this size.
AUO,Chei mei,Samsung and sharp.
Toshiba have a 17" wide ips panel just on the market but for industrial use.
And the only other is mitsubishi wich again tends to be for industrial use.
I would go for a slightly bigger size(if you want wide screen).
Oh and plasma will always give better viewing angles from all sides!
And before you ask I know all this because I sell Panels into the industrial market and deal with the manufacturers direct. I dont sell TV,S though
31 January 2008, 05:34 PM
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Normally LCD panels have a bias on the vertical of the viewing angle one way or another. This is known as 6 oclock and 12 oclock.
A six oclock panel will look better from below and a 12 oclock panel will oclock better from above.
IPS panels are new and very expensive and are not widley used (if at all) in the tv market at the moment.
17" is a bad size to want as most of the major panel manufacturers have or are pulling out of this size.
AUO,Chei mei,Samsung and sharp.
Toshiba have a 17" wide ips panel just on the market but for industrial use.
And the only other is mitsubishi wich again tends to be for industrial use.
I would go for a slightly bigger size(if you want wide screen).
Oh and plasma will always give better viewing angles from all sides!
And before you ask I know all this because I sell Panels into the industrial market and deal with the manufacturers direct. I dont sell TV,S though
A six oclock panel will look better from below and a 12 oclock panel will oclock better from above.
IPS panels are new and very expensive and are not widley used (if at all) in the tv market at the moment.
17" is a bad size to want as most of the major panel manufacturers have or are pulling out of this size.
AUO,Chei mei,Samsung and sharp.
Toshiba have a 17" wide ips panel just on the market but for industrial use.
And the only other is mitsubishi wich again tends to be for industrial use.
I would go for a slightly bigger size(if you want wide screen).
Oh and plasma will always give better viewing angles from all sides!
And before you ask I know all this because I sell Panels into the industrial market and deal with the manufacturers direct. I dont sell TV,S though
everywhere i went to said the 17" were going. i have a Realysis (sp) in my kitchen and its great, even watching it on your head. i am going to give up looking for a 19" and go for something bigger, shame as she only has a small room
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