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Old 16 December 2007, 10:58 PM
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Been told to rest it, HOW. Its in the right shoulder, my prime shoulder for work. Computer based.
Any ideas on how to control the pain and work at the same time
It's a bitch and has been going on for about 5 weeks now, not getting any better.

Have been using that Ibuprofen gel stuff as I am not keen on tablets.

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Old 16 December 2007, 11:00 PM
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Get some of those cura-heat patch things from Boots - apparently last for 12 hours - heat helps

hope it feels better soon, L!
Old 16 December 2007, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by little-ginge
Get some of those cura-heat patch things from Boots - apparently last for 12 hours - heat helps

hope it feels better soon, L!

Cheers A, anything that will help. Its a ruddy nuisance
I thought it was RSI, but I had a massage on Wednesday and he said I had a torn muscle
Old 16 December 2007, 11:05 PM
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I'm sure Sal will have a cocktail of pills that will sort you out!
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Old 16 December 2007, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB.T
I'm sure Sal will have a cocktail of pills that will sort you out!
I'll give her a ring tomorrow

Thanks Hux, I forgot about that
Old 17 December 2007, 07:56 AM
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Physio is the way mate. I just got back from a session at mine actually.
Damaged rotator cuff now much better thanks to ultra sound and accupuncture.
Not cheap but worth it.

Now being treated for my lower back too. All posture related, hence off sick too right now.
Old 17 December 2007, 08:06 AM
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Another vote for acupuncture here

And stop using that computer...
Old 17 December 2007, 08:12 AM
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When it does get better - invest in a bit of time down the gym to gently exercise it to stop recurrence.

Just had a minor tear myself which has only got better from enforced gym layoff due to other illness
Old 17 December 2007, 08:14 AM
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You can help it by RICEing it

Rest, Ice, Compression, and Elevation (RICE) -

This seems to be the common advice for all muscle related injuries. It may help in the short term (I'm doing at the moment with a torn calf muscle) but physio will speed the healing process.
Old 17 December 2007, 08:37 AM
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Thanks, folks
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Dead sea mud is good for tennis elbow, it might help.
Old 17 December 2007, 08:42 AM
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Not sure if this is a recommended solution but I had a torn calf muscle a few years back and alternated with Paracetemol and Ibuprofen so that one took over as the other was waning. Also felt the anti inflammatory properties of the Ibuprofen helped a little.

Also worked when I tweaked my back a while back too.

Not sure how to elevate a shoulder!

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Originally Posted by scoobychick
Another vote for acupuncture here

And stop using that computer...
lol oops, thats what the physio and doctor say too lol
I am on a lot less now myself as my back is too painful, and im sick of pins now, im sure im gonna spring a leak!
Old 17 December 2007, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by oldsplice
Dead sea mud is good for tennis elbow, it might help.
Is it ? Im due an operation on mine some time soon.. Might give that a go. Cant win with my shoulder and elbow recently.
Old 17 December 2007, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Physio is the way mate. I just got back from a session at mine actually.
Damaged rotator cuff now much better thanks to ultra sound and accupuncture.
Not cheap but worth it.

Now being treated for my lower back too. All posture related, hence off sick too right now.
Yep Physio is the only way with rotator cuff injurys. They are a nightmare when they go and recovery is slow. No quick fixes with this one. 5 months down the line and only now am I seeing definate recovery.
Whatever you do, DON'T take ibuprofen on an empty stomach. I did and it caused me really bad stomach pains which had to be treated with further medication.
Old 17 December 2007, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewdelvard
Yep Physio is the only way with rotator cuff injurys. They are a nightmare when they go and recovery is slow. No quick fixes with this one. 5 months down the line and only now am I seeing definate recovery.
Whatever you do, DON'T take ibuprofen on an empty stomach. I did and it caused me really bad stomach pains which had to be treated with further medication.

Im 2 months in with the rotator cuff treatment, and its still painful but usable now. Sadly due to over compensation, I now have muscle issues in my mid back too.
All started with tennis elbow. What a nightmare and an expensive one at that.

Not going back to work til they get things sorted though, not going through all this pain again.
Old 17 December 2007, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Is it ? Im due an operation on mine some time soon.. Might give that a go. Cant win with my shoulder and elbow recently.
I tried it years ago, when I had tennis elbow. It didn't feel any better the next morning, but by the end of the day, it was sooooooooo much better, and I haven't had it since.

I thought it might have been a fluke, but a colleague at the time was also suffering, so I passed the leftovers on to him, it worked and he then passed it on to another colleague, for whom it also worked, so might be worth a go.

Aveda was the make I used. Google it.
Old 17 December 2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by oldsplice
I tried it years ago, when I had tennis elbow. It didn't feel any better the next morning, but by the end of the day, it was sooooooooo much better, and I haven't had it since.

I thought it might have been a fluke, but a colleague at the time was also suffering, so I passed the leftovers on to him, it worked and he then passed it on to another colleague, for whom it also worked, so might be worth a go.

Aveda was the make I used. Google it.
Splendid, will do. Anything is worth not having my arm cut open.

Had 3 courses of cortizone, now THATS hell!
Old 17 December 2007, 10:12 AM
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Alcohol numbs the pain
Old 17 December 2007, 10:15 AM
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Oooops!...........I lied! It was AHAVA! (Senior moment)

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Old 17 December 2007, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Alcohol numbs the pain
All well and good IF you drink alcohol............. as for me, thats hopeless lol

Oldsplice, lol I did wonder mate, will check that one now
What one is meant to be good for tennis elbow?
Old 17 December 2007, 10:25 AM
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The Low Sodium Dead Sea Mineral Mud (although you'll probably want the hand cream as well! )
Old 17 December 2007, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
All well and good IF you drink alcohol............. as for me, thats hopeless lol

Oldsplice, lol I did wonder mate, will check that one now
What one is meant to be good for tennis elbow?
During my recovery the one miracle has been Sodium Diclofenac 50mg and co-codamol 8mg. I was prescribed these by my Doc and it changed everything. Pain at times became no more than an 'itch'
Seriously get down to your Docs if you're not on anything prescribed.

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Old 17 December 2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewdelvard
During my recovery the one miracle has been Sodium Diclofenac 50mg and co-codamol 8mg. I was prescribed these by my Doc and it changed everything. Pain at times became no more than an 'itch'
Seriously get down to your Docs if you're not on anything prescribed.
Trying to steer clear of meds at the mo as I have no food intake to compliment them. Dont like taking them at the best of times, but manage the pain by stopping whatever im doing. Being off sick helps no end.
Old 17 December 2007, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
All well and good IF you drink alcohol............. as for me, thats hopeless lol

Oldsplice, lol I did wonder mate, will check that one now
What one is meant to be good for tennis elbow?
Thats the good thing about alcohol though, drink enough of it and you'll forget you was drinking so plead ignorance

Get well soon
Old 17 December 2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Thats the good thing about alcohol though, drink enough of it and you'll forget you was drinking so plead ignorance

Get well soon
lol I can honestly say on my few dabbles at drinking I have never got that bad.... and thats a good thing

Cheers mate
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Ah well, thats Snazy sorted out
Sally, I hate needles, so acupuncture
I like davegtts suggestion, alcohol
Old 17 December 2007, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
Ah well, thats Snazy sorted out
Sally, I hate needles, so acupuncture
I like davegtts suggestion, alcohol
Oi I said acupuncture ......before I got sorted out with mud

you wont see, and are unlikely to feel the needles, so dont rule it out just yet. Last 3 sessions I have had upto about 14 needles in my back, and shoulder I was having about 7 or 8.
Old 17 December 2007, 05:49 PM
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L - I've had acupuncture for a whiplash injury.. had it in my neck, shoulder and head.. I am terrified of needles and must say you don't really feel it unless they hit a sensitive patch when they twiddle the needles...

The results? It didnt do anything for me so back to normal physio


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