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Old 04 December 2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Wy the hell don't citroen make a 4x4 turbo rally rep!!

Just wondered why the company that has made by far and away the best WRC car for the last 5 year's or so don't build a rally rep. I'll be the first to admit that the C4 is no looker but it just seem's to me they aren't really cashing in on their WRC success !!
Old 04 December 2007, 05:08 PM
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I dunno. It's a question me and my mates have been asking for years.

I'd love a fabia WRC, 2l turbo 4wd.

Maybe Suzuki will do one?!?!
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Nobody except Mitsubishi and Subaru seem to.
Old 04 December 2007, 05:19 PM
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The rules changed which means they don't need to.

Both Scooby's and Mitzi's were concieved in the days when WRC cars had to be based on actual production models. That legacy is still shown (ie you can drive the road car out of the show room).
Old 04 December 2007, 05:30 PM
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Money is why they don't do it.

While manufacturers wanted to get rid of homolgation because of the cost; I can't help thinking that it's quite seriously harmed motorsport. BTCC and WRC are the two most obvious examples of motorsports where, not that long ago, you could go out and buy a car that was, pretty much, almost the same as the car you saw raced. Those times are gone I'm afraid - even us Impreza and Evo owners only drive a shadow of the car we see on the rally stages.
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Cos they can make a packet more flogging mpvs,thats why
Old 04 December 2007, 06:06 PM
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Why waste millions of pounds on a WRC effort if they're content on selling crappy people carrier's !! Most Xara Piccaso owner's wouldn't even know who Sebastian Loeb is.
Old 04 December 2007, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by finchyboy
Why waste millions of pounds on a WRC effort if they're content on selling crappy people carrier's !! Most Xara Piccaso owner's wouldn't even know who Sebastian Loeb is.

well i own a xsara picasso (note spelling)
and i know who he is
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It's a fair point though. Why, for example, should someone looking to buy an MPV give a toss about how they're doing in the WRC?

At least the car in my garage actually has 4WD, and a turbo, and makes some claim to be a performance car. And it even looks just like the one Colin McRae won the championship in, which you certainly can't say for this year's C4 or Focus.
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
well i own a xsara picasso (note spelling)
and i know who he is
I wasn't having a pop at xsara (you learn something everyday) owner's but you know what i mean. I've just had a look at the citroen u.k website and to celebrate Loeb's 4th WRC Championship win they have brought out a special "Loeb" edition C4 with wait for it a 125bhp 1.6 16v engine. Talk about missing the point!!!
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I'd hit it

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its growing on me actually - but not as sexy as the xsara imo
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I think they look great and probably given some reason to why the Impreza is changing to a hatch - as well as trying to tap into Focus/Golf market....

I wouldn't buy another Impreza/Evo due to the chav stigma now attached to them.

If Citroen built the above for the road I'd seriously consider one though.

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Thank fxxk they dont ! 99% of French cars are driven by people who shouldnt be allowed on the roads, so dont give them more powerful ones ! ( Every dozy 17 year old bint seems to drive a 106, and all geriatrics have Clios )

I cant think of any reason I would ever buy a Peugot, Citroen or Renault instead of a Ford, Vauxhall or Japanese car if I was buying a runaround - they are all horrible and crap.
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Originally Posted by MikeCardiff
... 99% of French cars are driven by people who shouldnt be allowed on the roads, so dont give them more powerful ones ! ( Every dozy 17 year old bint seems to drive a 106, and all geriatrics have Clios )

Free insurance on Clio's and 106's doesn't help. My 17 yo niece just bought a new Clio with free insurance for less than the insurance premiums were going to be for any other car. They had stopped doing it for under 21's for a while, but it seems they aren't shifting too many cars in the past few months. I had the misfortune of having a 106 once owning 2 French cars - a Renault 9 (2nd hand from a dealer) which basically fell to bits over the course of a year, and a 106 (new from a dealer) which didn't fall to bits as it only started occasionally. The AA man kept a spare set of keys for our car so we didn't have to waste three hours every day waiting on him
Old 05 December 2007, 09:12 AM
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I would rather see a wrc inspired Focus than a Citroen.

Bring back the cossie....

Properly!
Old 05 December 2007, 09:16 AM
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HERE IT IS!!

Citroen - check

turbocharged - check

4x4 - check

rally rep - check











(Lisbon - Dakar rally OK for you?)
Old 05 December 2007, 09:25 AM
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Unfortunatley it would be struggling after the first sandy corner
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Originally Posted by MikeCardiff
Thank fxxk they dont ! 99% of French cars are driven by people who shouldnt be allowed on the roads, so dont give them more powerful ones ! ( Every dozy 17 year old bint seems to drive a 106, and all geriatrics have Clios )

I cant think of any reason I would ever buy a Peugot, Citroen or Renault instead of a Ford, Vauxhall or Japanese car if I was buying a runaround - they are all horrible and crap.
I love Scoobynet blanket statements by people without much knowledge, brilliant

I drive a French car. Its rather quick, and reliable, and nice looking, and used as a runaround. Its not the be-all, and I may swap it next year for something Jap but most folk like it and it will happily whip most cars out there, as well as out handle/out fun most vauxhall, ford and jap cars.

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Wondered when you'd pick up on that Simon
Old 05 December 2007, 11:54 AM
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Well, people need educating

Performance French cars dont win all the magazine contests for handling without reason.
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