Legality of wiring up your back gate to a car battery!!!.
03 December 2007, 06:22 PM
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Legality of wiring up your back gate to a car battery!!!.
Just wondering??. Made a delivery to a house this morning. Customer not in so went down the side and could see greenhouse. Reached over gate and got hold of catch.
Proceeded to pick myself up of the floor.
Used hanky and opened gate. Battery wired to the catch. Left parcel and a very strong not to Householder.
No Signs on gate.
Is that legal??, my wrist ached for 4 hours.
Proceeded to pick myself up of the floor.
Used hanky and opened gate. Battery wired to the catch. Left parcel and a very strong not to Householder.
No Signs on gate.
Is that legal??, my wrist ached for 4 hours.
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Just wondering??. Made a delivery to a house this morning. Customer not in so went down the side and could see greenhouse. Reached over gate and got hold of catch.
Proceeded to pick myself up of the floor.
Used hanky and opened gate. Battery wired to the catch. Left parcel and a very strong not to Householder.
No Signs on gate.
Is that legal??, my wrist ached for 4 hours.
Proceeded to pick myself up of the floor.
Used hanky and opened gate. Battery wired to the catch. Left parcel and a very strong not to Householder.
No Signs on gate.
Is that legal??, my wrist ached for 4 hours.
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03 December 2007, 06:45 PM
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I saw my younger brother inadvertantly urinate on an electrified fence once..... It was over ten years ago but the memory still makes me laugh out loud!
03 December 2007, 06:47 PM
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Thanks, the one thing I will guarantee is that they will not be getting any more parcels.
Funny in hind site, after all, who hasn't pushed there mates onto a cattle fence when they were younger.
Funny in hind site, after all, who hasn't pushed there mates onto a cattle fence when they were younger.
03 December 2007, 07:25 PM
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Well not legal, but if you had been breaking in you could have sued them for thouands, however as you were not and only delivering a parcel you wouldn't get anything. At least it wasn't 230volts 
Also just curious are parcel delivery drivers allowed to go though a gate to leave a parcel?
Also just curious are parcel delivery drivers allowed to go though a gate to leave a parcel?
03 December 2007, 07:38 PM
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Its neither legal nor illegal, but under the Occupiers Liability Act 1984 you are entitled to sue for damages, as it was a hidden hazard (no signs) and easily accessible.
03 December 2007, 07:49 PM
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So, I'm curious, how was it wired up exactly? Only... 12 volts won't give you a shock - in fact you won't even feel it (unless you open gates with your tongue... in which case you deserve it!)
03 December 2007, 07:53 PM
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03 December 2007, 09:26 PM
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Andy, ask any mechanic unlucky enough to have shorted out a car battery and tell me 12 volts won't give you a shock. It's the current involved that makes a difference not the voltage.
03 December 2007, 09:39 PM
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That's not an electric shock, though. The spanner, screwdriver or whatever goes 'bang' because it has low resistance, therefore a large current flows causing a lot of localised I2R heating.
You can't give yourself an electric shock with a 12V battery, it's just not possible. You could have a nasty experience with, say, a piece of metal jewellery, or something wet maybe, but if you just grab both terminals of a car battery you won't come to any harm. Really*
*please don't, I know how tempting it might be to prove me wrong, but I'm not insured against Darwinism
You can't give yourself an electric shock with a 12V battery, it's just not possible. You could have a nasty experience with, say, a piece of metal jewellery, or something wet maybe, but if you just grab both terminals of a car battery you won't come to any harm. Really*
*please don't, I know how tempting it might be to prove me wrong, but I'm not insured against Darwinism
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That's not an electric shock, though. The spanner, screwdriver or whatever goes 'bang' because it has low resistance, therefore a large current flows causing a lot of localised I2R heating.
You can't give yourself an electric shock with a 12V battery, it's just not possible. You could have a nasty experience with, say, a piece of metal jewellery, or something wet maybe, but if you just grab both terminals of a car battery you won't come to any harm. Really*
*please don't, I know how tempting it might be to prove me wrong, but I'm not insured against Darwinism
You can't give yourself an electric shock with a 12V battery, it's just not possible. You could have a nasty experience with, say, a piece of metal jewellery, or something wet maybe, but if you just grab both terminals of a car battery you won't come to any harm. Really*
*please don't, I know how tempting it might be to prove me wrong, but I'm not insured against Darwinism
03 December 2007, 10:28 PM
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You can't give yourself an electric shock with a 12V battery, it's just not possible. You could have a nasty experience with, say, a piece of metal jewellery, or something wet maybe, but if you just grab both terminals of a car battery you won't come to any harm. Really*
Most electric cattle fences are powered by 12v car batteries. Can I watch while you grab hold of one?
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03 December 2007, 11:41 PM
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Someone did this with his car door handles. Was successfully prosecuted.
I'd tell the police cos some other poor sap's going to get it and his/her heart might not be so strong.
But I admit, it would have been bluddy funny to have seen it.
Many years ago I "accidentally" let go of the electic fence that i had pushed down with my welly just as the sh*tty liitle assistant farm manager stepped over it. It pinged straight up between his legs and he didn't know which leg to hop on to to get him off the fence the fastest so in his own confusion he got several really good belts, especially as I'd only charged the battery up that morning!
I'd tell the police cos some other poor sap's going to get it and his/her heart might not be so strong.
But I admit, it would have been bluddy funny to have seen it.
Many years ago I "accidentally" let go of the electic fence that i had pushed down with my welly just as the sh*tty liitle assistant farm manager stepped over it. It pinged straight up between his legs and he didn't know which leg to hop on to to get him off the fence the fastest so in his own confusion he got several really good belts, especially as I'd only charged the battery up that morning!
04 December 2007, 02:00 AM
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a car bat will not give you a shock on its own
he probably had a fence kit like this Hotline Handy Horse 200M Electric Fence Kit
next to the bat and wired to the bolt
probably had trouble round ther at some point
he probably had a fence kit like this Hotline Handy Horse 200M Electric Fence Kit
next to the bat and wired to the bolt
probably had trouble round ther at some point
04 December 2007, 02:02 AM
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Someone did this with his car door handles. Was successfully prosecuted.
I'd tell the police cos some other poor sap's going to get it and his/her heart might not be so strong.
But I admit, it would have been bluddy funny to have seen it.
Many years ago I "accidentally" let go of the electic fence that i had pushed down with my welly just as the sh*tty liitle assistant farm manager stepped over it. It pinged straight up between his legs and he didn't know which leg to hop on to to get him off the fence the fastest so in his own confusion he got several really good belts, especially as I'd only charged the battery up that morning!
I'd tell the police cos some other poor sap's going to get it and his/her heart might not be so strong.
But I admit, it would have been bluddy funny to have seen it.
Many years ago I "accidentally" let go of the electic fence that i had pushed down with my welly just as the sh*tty liitle assistant farm manager stepped over it. It pinged straight up between his legs and he didn't know which leg to hop on to to get him off the fence the fastest so in his own confusion he got several really good belts, especially as I'd only charged the battery up that morning!
pmsl
