POC

Tragically a family friend was killed a few nights ago, he was riding home from work on his motorbike when someone pulled out of a junction just as he got there The car driver's windows were misted up and they had no clear vision.

I know we all do this to some extent and at some point, makes you think though. Maybe we all spend a few mins more letting the heaters warm up and fully demist the windows and a father of three would still be here for christmas

STi wanna Subaru

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Sad story for all involved. Exactly why I cant work out why people use bikes. Maybe not the right place to discuss that though.

The Zohan

Very sad and tragic story.

I could have been killed by someone with misted up windows, i was in my scoob at the time and the driver literally took the side off of the car, if i had been 50 yds further down the road he would have hit me head on!
As itr is i have a damages sciatic(sp) knerve that plays me up from time to time, it could have been a lot worse and all because someone did not take the small ammount of thought time and care to clear their windscreen.

TBH you have to be stupid and irresponsible not to clear the front/side windows of a car before pulling away or not pull over the instant it starts to mist up - no brainer!

mamoon2

Tragic, makes you think. Will defo make sure mine are fully de-misted as of lately i have been guilty of doing this myself.

Allan

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Very sad.

A good use for the aircon, gets it cleared much quicker.

jiffthejiffmanjaffa

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Shamed to admit, but I too am guilty. I will now demist the screen.

Good tip about the aircon never though about that.

Snazy

Sorry to hear you're news, thats terrible.

I have to say I never go anywhere with misted windows for just that reason. During the winter you see so many clowns out with no vision, windows iced up etc.

At the start of most journies I flip the direction dial to screen, and let the AC do its thing, then put it back on auto and leave the AC running, keeps the windows clear. So definatly agree with the above.

Brendan Hughes

Also gives it some exercise during the winter, which ISTR is recommended.

Leslie

Sorry to hear about such a tragic thing to happen. I am lucky in that respect in that my Mini Cooper has an incredibly fast demist action.

Les

Jay m A

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Sorry to hear of your bad news Paul

Another one is the amount of dust people let build up inside the screen. With the low sun in winter as soon as its head on total vision is lost

SJ_Skyline

Awful news mate

POC

Thanks guys

It was Jim's (my #2) dad Rich

SJ_Skyline

Aww man, you know where I am if you need anything mate

andythejock01wrx

V sad. I'm a bit **** about clear windows, I even use my ice scraper to clear the residue from the outside. A/C works great, as above.

I must admit I nearly overshot a red light last night, stopped on the line, but had to brake hard. As I did so, a biker rode past. They always look so vulnerable.

Shark Man

Terrible thing to happen.

It's quite simple rule really; don't drive if you can't see.

It's the reason why I had the tints took off my side windows, as in the dark/dusk/dawn they were lethal.

[Davey]

You could apply that logic to why own a performance car when the speed limit is 30mph in most places with a maximum of 70

You have so much more freedom on a motorbike, its just sad that most accidents involving bikes are caused by car drivers.

STi wanna Subaru

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My point is the poor chap in question here was probably doing nothing wrong and has paid the ultimate price. You get so little protection on bike. You said it yourself.

Shark Man

I'm a nervous biker, I'll admit to that.

Put it this way, whenever I'm approaching a junction with a car/truck/bus waiting to pull out, I'm already on the brakes - even though I have right of way.

I just can't trust them.

The time I'll get killed by another road user that "didn't see me" will be the the time I get complaicent and put too much faith in other road user's observation/abilities

scoob_babe

Nervous biker? - I have very little faith in other people's driving abilities even though I'm in a car due to a crash a few years back. We nearly got hit by a Saab head just last weekend, on on our side of straight road in a very built up area and he was going considerably more than 30mph -broad daylight in the middle of the day!

J4CKO

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Also, when the temp is under about 1c don't forget that if you squirt your washers the water will pretty much always spontaneously freeze if the screen is still cold.

Really annoys me when I see people driving with misted up windows, I just wait until its clear, or those that clear a square foot of snow and then drive off with 2 tonnes on the roof, cos it wont slide down will it !

_RIP_

Or on a push bike or as a pedestrian or in a small car etc etc. If this thread has made even a few ignorant drivers think about the others who 'share' our roads then we need say no more.

Tam the bam

A lass who used to stay in my old street just scraped a small view hole in her windscreen and drove happily to work with every other window in the car covered with frost

I don't set off till all my windows are clear, even if it makes me 10 mins late for work

Sorry to hear about your friend POC

Brendan Hughes

Isn't detergent mixed with anti-freeze? Mind, I agree that many people don't bother with the detergent - and get a shock as you describe above.

[Davey]

Number one biker rule, every one is out to kill you including yourself

TopBanana

You've got the right attitude, but there's not a lot you can do if someone pulls out at the last minute on a national speed limit road.

I ride on the road as little as possible.

Leslie

Very sensible attitude towards defensive riding.

Les