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Old 01 November 2007, 04:00 PM
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On saturday at 5pm I was on a 2 lane road with a kerb either side.

2 Ford transit police marked vans came towards me with flashing blues on... all the cars in front of me, slow moving traffic were small, ie fiestas etc and moved to the side of the road.

I moved over as far as I could without mounting the kerb and the van still came towards me and didnt slow down kept coming leaving me no option but to mount the kerb thus damaging my alloy.

Went to the police station to complain, got an inspector taking my details of what happened.

Inspector told me he had never had a complaint like this before... told him to come outside and see the car, he did and said ' oh now I see why' I said ' yes well if it was a 20 year old escort (no offence) we wouldnt be having this conversation'

Today I receive a phone call saying I have to inform my insurance company and make a claim and my insurance company can claim against them... told him I have 9 years no claims and no points, and Im not going to tarnish my record with a claim....

He's gone away to talk to some bigwig...

He told me that it is an offence not to move out of the way of an emergency vehicle on a shout.... even if it means damaging my car....

Where Do I Stand ?
Old 01 November 2007, 04:03 PM
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Erm, if you could see the vehicle in front and you knew it was going to be a tight squeeze why didnt you mount the kerb in advance? You could have done it in a way that would mean the wheel didnt get damaged.

Not having a go but it seems like the logical thing, I honestly cant see you getting anywhere with this though. Sounds like it'd be a right PITA to get anything from them in terms of compensation and would be more hassle than its worth
Old 01 November 2007, 04:05 PM
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because it is a high kerb and i knew i would damage the alloy
Old 01 November 2007, 04:06 PM
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Not if you mounted the kerb with the tyre like normal people do.
Old 01 November 2007, 04:06 PM
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And I couldnt move onto the kerb straight away as it had pedestrians 4 a breast on it , a busy tourist area
Old 01 November 2007, 04:06 PM
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I allways wondered how this would work. I could see them just laughing at you but let us know what happenes, will be interesting to see what they do?
Old 01 November 2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Not if you mounted the kerb with the tyre like normal people do.
And how would that be? On a road I couldnt go back as the car behind me was tight up against me and there was no room to swing out
Old 01 November 2007, 04:07 PM
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That sucked! Shame that they dont take the responsibility and be nice for a change.....
Old 01 November 2007, 04:07 PM
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Pedestrians can move
Old 01 November 2007, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by girl-in-a-scoob
And how would that be? On a road I couldnt go back as the car behind me was tight up against me and there was no room to swing out
You turn the wheels left so theyre facing the kerb, rather than trying to mount the kerb sideways...
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Pedestrians can move
They move a little quicker if you drive at them YES but its usually better for them to move out of the way
Old 01 November 2007, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
You turn the wheels left so theyre facing the kerb, rather than trying to mount the kerb sideways...
I never thought of that ...


I did turn left as much as I could given the circumstances .... read it again
Old 01 November 2007, 04:11 PM
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Yes, Im for real, I know how to read the situation in front of me, Id know the gap wasnt going to be all that big and would slow down, turn left and mount the kerb enough....

Women drivers eh
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slow down in slow moving traffic ...
Old 01 November 2007, 04:12 PM
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Everyone has experience about complaining about police........they are morons after all..... but as Davegtt says.... normally people steer into the curb so the tyre makes contact first and not the alloy..... or you should of left it where it was and stated it was as far as you could pull over without putting pedestrians at risk
Old 01 November 2007, 04:12 PM
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Claiming off your insurance AGAINST them is not really gonna tarnish your record.
I would take the simple option tbh. Otherwise its gonna get messy and drawn out.
If the inspector will furnish you with agreement that it was the force's fault, you should be fine.

Speak to your insurers and check this would not go against you. From experience it wont.

At the same time, do you believe the police vehicles would actually have struck your car if you had not hit the kerb? How much more did you move over from initial positioning, to where you struck the kerb? If the vehicle failed to slow, my most serious concern would be their driving.

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Old 01 November 2007, 04:13 PM
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Thanks Snazy
Old 01 November 2007, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy

At the same time, do you believe the police vehicles would actually have struck your car if you had not hit the kerb? How much more did you move over from initial positioning, to where you struck the kerb? If the vehicle failed to slow, my most serious concern would be their driving.
Thats one of the things that was mentioned... That I should have sat there until I was struck and then I would of been prosecuted for not moving and I had a baby asleep in the rear seat on the drivers side
Old 01 November 2007, 04:37 PM
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I had already moved closer to the kerb which is why I couldnt get the swing to mount the kerb correctly
Old 01 November 2007, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by girl-in-a-scoob
He told me that it is an offence not to move out of the way of an emergency vehicle on a shout.... even if it means damaging my car....
I don't believe this. There is an ambulance driver in court right now for dangerous driving because a girl turned right as he was overtaking her with sirens and lights going.
Old 01 November 2007, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerome
I don't believe this. There is an ambulance driver in court right now for dangerous driving because a girl turned right as he was overtaking her with sirens and lights going.
like I said, women drivers

Why the eck is he in court though
Old 01 November 2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerome
I don't believe this. There is an ambulance driver in court right now for dangerous driving because a girl turned right as he was overtaking her with sirens and lights going.
Thats what he said... you can be prosecuted for holding them up
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Originally Posted by davegtt
like I said, women drivers

Why the eck is he in court though
Overtaking a car which was indicating right.
Even though people SHOULD see them, and courtesy says give way... Its not a law. So in theory the ambulance driver is still guilty of dangerous driving.
Not my belief, but the way it is.

THe trained driver should "anticipate" what other road users will do, and react accordingly. Defensive driving 101.
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Originally Posted by girl-in-a-scoob
Thats what he said... you can be prosecuted for holding them up
Not sure there is actually a UK law supporting this.
Failing to stop is an offence.

I know the USA has failing to yield to an emergency vehicle though.
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Another good case for urban SUV's although not those with 22" rims and 35 profile tyres

I've only had to mount the kerb once for an ambulance and didn't do any damage.

If the Police insurers decide to play hard ball I dont think you stand much chance unless you have a witness that will state you had no other choice and the damage was done at that point.

Cheers
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Not sure there is actually a UK law supporting this.
Failing to stop is an offence.

I know the USA has failing to yield to an emergency vehicle though.
Thats what the Inspector told me....


Originally Posted by logiclee

If the Police insurers decide to play hard ball I dont think you stand much chance unless you have a witness that will state you had no other choice and the damage was done at that point.

Cheers
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Cheers Lee...
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Is the damage really bad? I know there are some really good wheel repair specialists nowadays.
Old 01 November 2007, 06:01 PM
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How can me saying that pulling over a far as safe with regard to pedestrian safety be worthy of a negative comment???
Old 01 November 2007, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
Everyone has experience about complaining about police........they are morons after all.....
The clue might be in the first bit you wrote

We have kerbs round here that are 6" high and would damage a spoiler, let alone an alloy. I have to do quite a bit of reversing on recycling day

If the law says you have to damage stuff to get out the way (which I don't believe) then you should reverse into the car behind and keep going until out of the way, at least your alloys will be OK
Old 01 November 2007, 08:23 PM
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Do what I did and go the local paper

I did this, and got a phone call from the police within an hour of the paper being published along with my letter


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