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Old 14 September 2007, 09:54 AM
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Default Northern Rock Shares Collapse

Down 24% in early trading ..................
Old 14 September 2007, 10:05 AM
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They were £12 in April. £5.06 now.
Old 14 September 2007, 10:07 AM
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Be interesting if a sort of "Collapse Hysteria" of the Maddie/Diana type occurs and investors take out their savings on mass. But I am sure the media will take a sensible approach dl
Old 14 September 2007, 10:09 AM
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Listening to 5-Live, massive queues at NR branches, of people closing accounts.

"An atmosphere of panic" is a direct quote.
Old 14 September 2007, 10:18 AM
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Idiots...
Old 14 September 2007, 10:20 AM
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Assuming the savers dont clear them out completely!
Old 14 September 2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Listening to 5-Live, massive queues at NR branches, of people closing accounts.

"An atmosphere of panic" is a direct quote.
I've heard this from from inside NR this morning. If BoE don't step in with a major handout they could be foobarred
Old 14 September 2007, 10:28 AM
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Stupid stupid people. As mentioned on another thread the BoE would not be lending to NR if they thought it was going to collapse into a bottomless hole

Seems like a good time to keep an eye on their shares and when they bottom out buy a shed load!

I'm not so sure......... The Old Lady had little choice but to prop them up yesterday. But they are hardly likely to say "Of course if everyone pulls out then we'll carry on pumping money in". dl
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Originally Posted by **************
Stupid stupid people. As mentioned on another thread the BoE would not be lending to NR if they thought it was going to collapse into a bottomless hole

Seems like a good time to keep an eye on their shares and when they bottom out buy a shed load!

And when Equitable Life went through a similar crisis, assurances about savings were made.

And then, some people lost 000's.

Once bitten twice shy I reckon.
Old 14 September 2007, 10:34 AM
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My advice is simple if you have more than £35,000 in savings with Northern Rock. Get it out now....... you are only guaranteed up to £35,000 after that you're on your own.

Forget the Bank of England rate the average tracker mortgage rate is around 7.5%.

Imagine if you had got fixed rate mortgage in 2004 2005 you going to have a big shock when you suddenly get your mortgage increase by 30%.

There is a reason none of the other banks want to lend to Northern Rock they are not stupid
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Originally Posted by **************
Stupid stupid people. As mentioned on another thread the BoE would not be lending to NR if they thought it was going to collapse into a bottomless hole

Seems like a good time to keep an eye on their shares and when they bottom out buy a shed load!
Er, yes!

I was listening to the report this morning as well.
Old 14 September 2007, 10:43 AM
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whats worse is that 90% of these retards will be closing accounts with £5k in them !
Old 14 September 2007, 10:46 AM
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Maybe, but if 5k is all you have, you're going to want to protect it aren't you?
Old 14 September 2007, 10:49 AM
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Mr car loan is with NR. What would happen to that if the worst were to happen ? Just get transferred to a new lender?
Old 14 September 2007, 10:51 AM
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If all these folks are turning up to grab their £5k (or more) to stuff under the mattress, how many branches of NR (or any bank/BS for that matter) carry enough cash to cope with that level of withdrawals in a days?

I was under the impression that an average branch didn't carry much cash, hence needing to arrange with them if you wanted to withdraw a large amount of cash.
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I think if NR was going under they would sell off any debts owed to them to other lenders. Not sure if everything would stay the same regarding payments etc though, shouldnt imagine much would change but I have about 8k still owed to NR so wouldnt mind for that to disappear if that were the case
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If I had more than 35k in NR I would be moving the surplus out. I would rather move it and not lose it than let in sit there with the slim possibility it could disappear by Monday.
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Originally Posted by ChrisB
If all these folks are turning up to grab their £5k (or more) to stuff under the mattress, how many branches of NR (or any bank/BS for that matter) carry enough cash to cope with that level of withdrawals in a days?

I was under the impression that an average branch didn't carry much cash, hence needing to arrange with them if you wanted to withdraw a large amount of cash.
Cheques/Bankers drafts made out to other accounts at different building societies etc?
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The debts (both secured and unsecured) get sold to another lender if they go under
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Cheques/Bankers drafts made out to other accounts at different building societies etc?
Indeed that's an option but I can see your average Tabloid reader having a strop in the branch and demanding a pile of used tenners
Old 14 September 2007, 10:56 AM
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I dont suppose there's much chance of them forgetting about my mortgage
Old 14 September 2007, 10:58 AM
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LMAO - The BoE have offered NR a 'liquidity support loan at a premium'

That sounds like the sort of thing Ocean Finance do. Maybe all the directors can get a new car and go on holidays now
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another 10% and its time to buy some shares! they are fast approaching very good value.
Old 14 September 2007, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Maybe, but if 5k is all you have, you're going to want to protect it aren't you?

It is protected (all bar £300 of it) and when was the last time you heard of a mainstream UK bank going bust? NR have plenty of assets - they are in for some lower profits but nothing worse.
Old 14 September 2007, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by The Snug Rhino
NR have plenty of assets .
Yep both my houses for a start
Old 14 September 2007, 11:11 AM
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