StickyMicky

I have had a nice traffic officer here today, last thursday morning (2/8/7) an off duty police man allegedly saw me doing 90mph on the way to work and nearly crashing into various things/cars/bin wagons/ off duty policemen

this off duty policeman has made a statement, and i was given a choice, fight it in court, or take a section 59 notice

i cant be bothered to mess about in court, so just took the "warning"

i don't recall any of this to be honest, i drive like a tit at times but 7:20am is 10 mins after my alarm goes off in the morning and a good 40 mins before i start work (when on earlys) and i obviously don't get wrong for starting late as i own the bloody business

can a off duty copper say this kind of stuff and it end up with me getting a 59notice, it seams a bit fishy when it was not so long ago that another off duty copper claimed i nearly drove over him on his pushbike when i was not even in the areas, nor could the copper remember exactly where the "incident" was at the time (i made a PCCC complaint about this bloke, wondering if the "sarge" has asked a few of his chums to start hassling me)

pslewis

I would have told them to prove it in court - you have, effectively, accepted that you carried out the alleged offences .... and they will now be on your record!!

wrx-kris

can't they take your car off you the second time round???

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

Cloned plate? why take the rap for it if you are 100% certian you are innocent

wrx-kris

Green Lane Association Ltd. - Section 59 Vehicle Seizures

StickyMicky

yes i believe they can, it lasts for 1 year, i thought this thing was brought in to stop all the cruisers handbraking around mcdonalds car park, its a little unnerving that an off duty copper can make a statement and "it all kicks off"

especially for what would be debatable at best

i still don't have a clue what the bloke was on about, he reeled off a list of things i had done wrong, including sitting behind somebody at an estimated speed of 90mph, but when i asked the traffic officer if he thought there was even enough road to do all these things (off roundabout and onto dual carrigeway, off at next sliproad) he shrugged his shoulders and said all he could do was show me the statement made by the off duty bloke

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

Should have come to the TTS meet tonight, Micky, you wouldn't have been in for them to hassle you with it.

Personally think it's a load of crap, should have told them to prove it.

Whatever will you get upto next?

StickyMicky

i will go into work tomorrow to see what time i arrived last thursday, this "incident" happened about 3 mins drive from work, so if i arrive at 7.23am then i must have been in the frame, still cant remember any of the tailgating, nearly hitting a bin wagon, undertaking malarkey mind...

StickyMicky

the traffic bloke has probably been sitting waiting for me every morning since, and got bored with me not being there so called round

cant help feeling that this is open to abuse, especially after i complained about that Sargent a few months back

Spoon

Do it tomorrow as well but try these on first.

StickyMicky

i never wore anything like that, the past few times i have been locked up

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

Have to say it does bear an uncanny resemblance.

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

Uniform now comes with free

speye91

MattN

How on earth did this off duty officer get an accurate speed reading? Surely if they can prove this then they'd have charged you with something, so it suggests they can't.

I often see people driving badly but I imagine if I told the police after every incident they'd still do nothing, sounds like they have something against you.

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

I'd fight it. Fight it all the way. For all you know there is somebody else out there who has cloned your reg, which is why you are getting all this hassle in the first place.

StickyMicky

i did mention this and the traffic cop told me

"well yes, his road car speed is not calibrated, but its probably not that far off in real terms"

i wish i could search for my old post where i ended up complaining about the "sarge" a while back, i do think that they have just waited for the dust to settle a little bit and then started poking about just to **** me off.

its one of the reasons why i painted the car all white again as i figured i was going to start getting "hassled" after the first complaint, and a red and white painted car was just going to stand out to much, i have been followed from work to my home address before come to think of it (2 months back)

davegtt

So the off duty officer was speeding too?

OllyK

This one? https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...ighlight=sarge

wrx-kris

sounds like you and a couple of mates want to find him and chuck him in your boot - i know i would.

the only other advice i can think of is sell your car
not ideal, but it could be your only option.

the thing ive found with the police is just nod and agree with them and only answer answers that they wont want to hear if they are pulling your pants down about something.

Simon 69

Mick doesnt look that camp, does he?

Transvestite StickyMicky

that's the one cheers olly! will print it all out for my references

cant help feeling like they "have it in for me"

the bloke who was running the wash a few years back was hassled by them loads as they wanted him to testify against one of tynesides gangs.
he wouldn't, so they used to wait for him to lock up on an evening and follow him home, pull him over for routine drink driving checks etc etc.

Transvestite StickyMicky

the off duty copper has said in his statement that he was doing 70mph

Abdabz

I'd challenge it all the futher mucking way!

The off duty moron cant prove you were doing anything illegal, he cant even prove you were there when he claims it happened.
I wouldnt bend over and take a section 59.

I'd take it court (hiring a brief along the way) and that would be that. Case closed.

Hope it works out.

WRX_Dazza

dont chuck him in your boot though - another off-duty policeman might see this happen and issue another section 59.

SirFozzalot

I would fight it, surely his "word" can't be good enough without some hard evidence?

I have heard of whole cases being thrown out of court for a minute detail in the evidence not being correct so this surely wouldn't stand-up as he doesn't have any evidence or proof at all!

scousefly

would you accept this
If you cant remember any of it AND the copper said his off duty lacky was in a non calibrated car then WHY WHY WHY would you accept all of this crap

Problem now is that you have, so IF you are innocent then you have frankly just stiched yourself up and IF your not innocent then why come on here telling us you dont remember any of it when you actually did do all that was suggested

Leslie

If his speedo has not been officially calibrated then what he said about your speed is not acceptable. I really think it is terrible if they start to take advantage of their position to give you a load of hassle like that. not a lot you can do about it if they get the knife into you though!

Les

StickyMicky

ello people


after looking into it a bit more, it seams the officer should have been in uniform to witness the "event"

which he was not, so i have basically shafted myself in signing the thing

to be honest, i just didn't want the hassle of messing about with courts, most people who end up in courts for motoring offence type stuff always get shafted, a mate was recently trying to take on the system and only just escaped jail at the end of it (suspended sentence i think!)

checked the cctv at work, but unfortunately i was upgrading the cctv on thursday morning and all the old files are not compatible with the new card, so i formatted both HD`s before installing the program, no footage before 8:30am on thursday


dont think i can do anything about it now

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

bugger

imo, and in my experience, the police are very rarely out to help you. They are just out to make their job easier. They have been told to do something, and they come out with some great one liners to try and get you to sign your life away. Chances of them taking you to court would be v low, yet he managed to get you to sign with just the threat of that.

Better luck next time