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Old 07 August 2007, 06:17 PM
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Apparently driving 3 miles to the shops produces less CO2 than walking there!

Walking to the shops ‘damages planet more than going by car’ - Times Online

It made me laugh, especially as it came from a Green spokesperson.
Old 07 August 2007, 06:31 PM
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Not true, unless you eat nothing but beef
Old 07 August 2007, 06:35 PM
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not necessarily - beef = 4x car by their calculation.

I'm sure veggies would be even worse as they need to eat a lot more to get the calories (breathing heavily just to chew the enormous amount of foliage involved).

therefore plants probably = 10x car

I keep saying it but it's all hogwash anyway - the issue is the planet is overpopulated and there's little we can do to stop the inevitable population crash. population today is 6bn - popn by 2040 is forecast to be 10bn. sustainable? course it's not - but any population with finite resource in a closed system collapses eventually. mass genocide may be the only answer...... or birth control
Old 07 August 2007, 07:40 PM
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Driving a typical UK car for 3 miles [4.8km] adds about 0.9 kg [2lb] of CO2 to the atmosphere
2lbs of CO2 emmitted in 3 miles?? The weight of a bag of sugar - in 3 miles??

Sorry, I simply don't believe that. It's not possible.
Old 07 August 2007, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordo
not necessarily - beef = 4x car by their calculation.

I'm sure veggies would be even worse as they need to eat a lot more to get the calories (breathing heavily just to chew the enormous amount of foliage involved).

therefore plants probably = 10x car

I keep saying it but it's all hogwash anyway - the issue is the planet is overpopulated and there's little we can do to stop the inevitable population crash. population today is 6bn - popn by 2040 is forecast to be 10bn. sustainable? course it's not - but any population with finite resource in a closed system collapses eventually. mass genocide may be the only answer...... or birth control
or ww3
Old 07 August 2007, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
or ww3
or Skynet becomes 'self aware'.
Old 07 August 2007, 08:09 PM
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People dont actually eat more just to make it to the shops, makes for an interesting headline, nothing else.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
2lbs of CO2 emmitted in 3 miles?? The weight of a bag of sugar - in 3 miles??

Sorry, I simply don't believe that. It's not possible.
Actually, UB, it is possible.

As the article mentions, 3 miles is pretty much 5 kilometres. It also mentions 0.9Kg of CO2 produced during that journey. That works out at 180g/km - which seems a good average for a typical UK car - and a lot less than an Impreza.
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But it does expose the current media obsession for "CO2" as the sole arbiter of climate change for what it is - media bollox

e.g Toyota Prius - complete with horribly nasty heavy batteries - as being better than any other car.

I drive a 34 year old MG Midget....rather than buy a brand new plastic covered weeklend toy. I should get a frickin medal for my environmental efforts ...but no I still pay more road tax on that that some c*nt with a new prius - who wont give 2 sh*ts how to dispose of the batteries in 10 years time.
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Originally Posted by dsmith
I drive a 34 year old MG Midget
Drive a 35 year old one and you wouldn't pay any road tax.
Old 07 August 2007, 10:00 PM
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just another 3 Months and 29 days would be enough ....just let me move this chip to my other shoulder
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