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22 May 2007, 10:15 PM
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Its about time they publicised this, I worked for Sainsburys as a student 15 years ago and worked on thee frozens dept, roll cages of meat would be sitting out when i'd turn up and be defrosted and i'd refuse to put them in the freezers saying they were off but management would insist all the meat was re frozen and basically get someone else to do it as I refused.
The checks by health and safety were a joke as well, they would give a weeks notice before turning up so the managers would be running round making sure everything was perfect the day they were due to turn up so they never found anything wrong. The checks should have been bloody random ffs.
Sainsburys is without doubt the worst employer I have ever worked for, they broke so many laws and treated staff like **** thinking they could get away with it. They are a ******* disgrace.
The checks by health and safety were a joke as well, they would give a weeks notice before turning up so the managers would be running round making sure everything was perfect the day they were due to turn up so they never found anything wrong. The checks should have been bloody random ffs.
Sainsburys is without doubt the worst employer I have ever worked for, they broke so many laws and treated staff like **** thinking they could get away with it. They are a ******* disgrace.
23 May 2007, 08:47 AM
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23 May 2007, 09:04 AM
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Completely agree using butcher burgers on a bbq they never shrink ,taste good and are very filling and tbh a lot cheaper.
Used to work in a supermarket many moons ago (in charge of freezer products) and everyone i worked with would adhere to health and safety but nowadays it's always profit,profit and more profit.
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23 May 2007, 09:19 AM
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You could have bet your mortgage on the standard corporate reponse from all concerned at the end of the show. Isolated incident / we're re-training staff - bollox!!!
My bro used to be a bakery manager for Tesco and he used to get battered for throwing away any bread products that didn't sell, it's management pressure to hit wastage targets to increase their greedy coffers by a few more pence.
I can't beleive that chicken farm and the ready meal factory didn't beleive customers health had been put at risk - they should be shut down!!
My bro used to be a bakery manager for Tesco and he used to get battered for throwing away any bread products that didn't sell, it's management pressure to hit wastage targets to increase their greedy coffers by a few more pence.
I can't beleive that chicken farm and the ready meal factory didn't beleive customers health had been put at risk - they should be shut down!!
23 May 2007, 11:14 AM
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Never buy meat from the supermarkets, our local butcher is closer, better quality and probably as cheap.
The difference in taste is staggering TBH.
The difference in taste is staggering TBH.
23 May 2007, 11:27 AM
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Many of the problems were temperature/storage related. Checking and recording fridge/freezer temperatures is a pain and so open to abuse.
Surely there must be a device that will do this automatically and cannot be tampered with? Typically this would be set to record temperatures every 4 hours or whatever and would provide a complete record. Obviously there would be a code for a manager to check at any time and an alarm facility if temperatures went out of acceptable range if fridge broke or someone left the door open.
The memory of that Tesco's minger shoving fish up her ample nose to see if it was "fresh" haunts me
Surely there must be a device that will do this automatically and cannot be tampered with? Typically this would be set to record temperatures every 4 hours or whatever and would provide a complete record. Obviously there would be a code for a manager to check at any time and an alarm facility if temperatures went out of acceptable range if fridge broke or someone left the door open.
The memory of that Tesco's minger shoving fish up her ample nose to see if it was "fresh" haunts me
23 May 2007, 11:33 AM
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I bet those on the program get fired and that's it.
It's very hard to trip the big supermarkets up but this was a good effort - I just think that those in charge won't for one second think "maybe we should stop only chasing profit and go back to basics"
I'm buying meat and fish locally all the time (was just most of the time) now.
It's very hard to trip the big supermarkets up but this was a good effort - I just think that those in charge won't for one second think "maybe we should stop only chasing profit and go back to basics"
I'm buying meat and fish locally all the time (was just most of the time) now.
23 May 2007, 11:58 AM
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I didn't see the programme but have read bits about it on the BBC news site. Supermarkets have already virtually screwed the food producers into the ground for profits and the fact that they're risking the health of their customers to further increase their profits is a disgrace.
Having said that, a vast majority of the public is just as guilty for shopping there and expecting cheap prices. The only way to make them take notice is to vote with your wallet.
Having said that, a vast majority of the public is just as guilty for shopping there and expecting cheap prices. The only way to make them take notice is to vote with your wallet.
23 May 2007, 12:03 PM
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MJW - But I don't think the public realised QUITE how much they are being shafted.
My view has generally been "they screw their suppliers but at least they are usually decent/safe quality and cheap" - Now the quality bit is in serious doubt.
Been getting an organic veg box for two years now and try to avoid much supermarket shopping but for the basics (milk, tins of stuff, cleaning products, cereal, etc) they are hard to beat.
Will avoid anything fresh from them now.
My view has generally been "they screw their suppliers but at least they are usually decent/safe quality and cheap" - Now the quality bit is in serious doubt.
Been getting an organic veg box for two years now and try to avoid much supermarket shopping but for the basics (milk, tins of stuff, cleaning products, cereal, etc) they are hard to beat.
Will avoid anything fresh from them now.
23 May 2007, 12:05 PM
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I bet the meat / fish counters are down on business today.
All our fresh meat comes from our local farm shops (quite a choice these days). Whilst you don't know what goes on behind the scenes there, I would hope it's better given the different environment.
All our fresh meat comes from our local farm shops (quite a choice these days). Whilst you don't know what goes on behind the scenes there, I would hope it's better given the different environment.
23 May 2007, 12:15 PM
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im very suprised by the posts here. My missus knows about what goes on behind the scenes & how they shaft the suppliers & has been trying to tell nsr what goes on in other threads only for her facts to be disregarded as utter rubbish.
i still think the majority wont care as long as they save a few quid.
I did laugh as t***o's 'green' report, then see that they fly all their dvds from hayes depot to switzerland then fly them back to save £1.36
i still think the majority wont care as long as they save a few quid.
I did laugh as t***o's 'green' report, then see that they fly all their dvds from hayes depot to switzerland then fly them back to save £1.36
23 May 2007, 01:25 PM
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Ive said this for years. Luckily Ive got 2 farm shops close to me and a few very good butchers. I still use Sainsbugs for bits and pieces as its convenient but for all fresh produce I go elsewhere where the quality is better and the price is cheaper.
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23 May 2007, 03:15 PM
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You could have bet your mortgage on the standard corporate reponse from all concerned at the end of the show. Isolated incident / we're re-training staff - bollox!!!
My bro used to be a bakery manager for Tesco and he used to get battered for throwing away any bread products that didn't sell, it's management pressure to hit wastage targets to increase their greedy coffers by a few more pence.
I can't beleive that chicken farm and the ready meal factory didn't beleive customers health had been put at risk - they should be shut down!!
My bro used to be a bakery manager for Tesco and he used to get battered for throwing away any bread products that didn't sell, it's management pressure to hit wastage targets to increase their greedy coffers by a few more pence.
I can't beleive that chicken farm and the ready meal factory didn't beleive customers health had been put at risk - they should be shut down!!
23 May 2007, 03:20 PM
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Many of the problems were temperature/storage related. Checking and recording fridge/freezer temperatures is a pain and so open to abuse.
Surely there must be a device that will do this automatically and cannot be tampered with? Typically this would be set to record temperatures every 4 hours or whatever and would provide a complete record. Obviously there would be a code for a manager to check at any time and an alarm facility if temperatures went out of acceptable range if fridge broke or someone left the door open.
The memory of that Tesco's minger shoving fish up her ample nose to see if it was "fresh" haunts me
Surely there must be a device that will do this automatically and cannot be tampered with? Typically this would be set to record temperatures every 4 hours or whatever and would provide a complete record. Obviously there would be a code for a manager to check at any time and an alarm facility if temperatures went out of acceptable range if fridge broke or someone left the door open.
The memory of that Tesco's minger shoving fish up her ample nose to see if it was "fresh" haunts me
23 May 2007, 04:16 PM
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If I were a cartoonist I would come up with a sketch of a big Tesco's fridge and a small bloated maggot crawling away.....
The caption would be "Every Little Helps"
The caption would be "Every Little Helps"
23 May 2007, 05:03 PM
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23 May 2007, 06:24 PM
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The worst bit was changing dates on meat, mincing "past USE by date" steak to sell as fresh mince, and cross contamination of meat/fish knives.
23 May 2007, 10:21 PM
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ASDA fined £80000
Rotten chops bag Asda £80,000 fine | Metro.co.uk
Lamb chops a month out of date. Bet they tasted nice.
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Lamb chops a month out of date. Bet they tasted nice.
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25 May 2007, 09:10 AM
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What amazes me is that it took 5 months in that tesco store to get the few bits of footage of staff doing things wrong, and yes they were doing things wrong, but if they were that concerned why did they stand back and carry on filming it for 5 months?? Are they not also as guilty for doing nothing for all that time, also knowing it was wrong.
25 May 2007, 09:34 AM
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Thats incorrect! If managers were telling managers what to produce why would they need him as a manager?
They actually have something called Production Planning and this tells the Bakery Manager what his team need to produce throughout the day. This is dependant on the Bakery managers inputting the correct forecast so the Bakery manager can both achieve customer satifaction via having the product available but also not compromise himself by overspending on waste.
Managers are there to manage and not to do. Do you think a large company like Tesco would leave any one person in any one of their stores to decide what needs to be made on any one day? You would have massive inconsistencies across the chain hence why they, and other large retailers, have systems so even the most inexperienced managers can use.
They actually have something called Production Planning and this tells the Bakery Manager what his team need to produce throughout the day. This is dependant on the Bakery managers inputting the correct forecast so the Bakery manager can both achieve customer satifaction via having the product available but also not compromise himself by overspending on waste.
Managers are there to manage and not to do. Do you think a large company like Tesco would leave any one person in any one of their stores to decide what needs to be made on any one day? You would have massive inconsistencies across the chain hence why they, and other large retailers, have systems so even the most inexperienced managers can use.
25 May 2007, 11:04 AM
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Managers are there to manage and not to do. Do you think a large company like Tesco would leave any one person in any one of their stores to decide what needs to be made on any one day? You would have massive inconsistencies across the chain hence why they, and other large retailers, have systems so even the most inexperienced managers can use.
An inexperenced manager may not check or make this call, and that where the inconsistencies come from.