London mayor 'sorry' for slavery
21 March 2007, 02:08 PM
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London mayor 'sorry' for slavery
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BBC NEWS | England | London | London mayor 'sorry' for slavery
I knew the socialist looney was old, but more than 200 years old and he once played a part in slavery in the city of London??? Well I'll be....
BBC NEWS | England | London | London mayor 'sorry' for slavery
I knew the socialist looney was old, but more than 200 years old and he once played a part in slavery in the city of London??? Well I'll be....
21 March 2007, 02:26 PM
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I'd just like to say that I personally apologise for the black death and malaria.
Sorry...
Sorry...
21 March 2007, 02:28 PM
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I am a bit tired of people apologising for thsi on my behalf - and suggesting reperaions!
Slavery is wrong and what happened back then was wrong, no doubt about it.
I am not responsible for it or any part of it!
I do love the way some of the facts are glossed over an forgotten such as
a lot of the people sold into slavery where captured by other tribes, in battle or raids on their 'enemies' and sold to the slave masters.
I we really want to get into it then perhaps we should look back to Roman times when this practice was also previlant and look for an apology for our ancestors being treated as slaves and worked to death as well!
Slavery is wrong and what happened back then was wrong, no doubt about it.
I am not responsible for it or any part of it!
I do love the way some of the facts are glossed over an forgotten such as
a lot of the people sold into slavery where captured by other tribes, in battle or raids on their 'enemies' and sold to the slave masters.
I we really want to get into it then perhaps we should look back to Roman times when this practice was also previlant and look for an apology for our ancestors being treated as slaves and worked to death as well!
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21 March 2007, 02:30 PM
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I am a bit tired of people apologising for thsi on my behalf - and suggesting reperaions!
Slavery is wrong and what happened back then was wrong, no doubt about it.
I am not responsible for it or any part of it!
I do love the way some of the facts are glossed over an forgotten such as
a lot of the people sold into slavery where captured by other tribes, in battle or raids on their 'enemies' and sold to the slave masters.
I we really want to get into it then perhaps we should look back to Roman times when this practice was also previlant and look for an apology for our ancestors being treated as slaves and worked to death as well!
Slavery is wrong and what happened back then was wrong, no doubt about it.
I am not responsible for it or any part of it!
I do love the way some of the facts are glossed over an forgotten such as
a lot of the people sold into slavery where captured by other tribes, in battle or raids on their 'enemies' and sold to the slave masters.
I we really want to get into it then perhaps we should look back to Roman times when this practice was also previlant and look for an apology for our ancestors being treated as slaves and worked to death as well!
21 March 2007, 02:44 PM
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Exactly. Do we expect the Italians to apologize to much of western Europe for their role in using slaves? I mean, what have the Romans ever done for us...?
21 March 2007, 02:49 PM
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I am a bit tired of people apologising for thsi on my behalf - and suggesting reperaions!
Slavery is wrong and what happened back then was wrong, no doubt about it.
I am not responsible for it or any part of it!
I do love the way some of the facts are glossed over an forgotten such as
a lot of the people sold into slavery where captured by other tribes, in battle or raids on their 'enemies' and sold to the slave masters.
I we really want to get into it then perhaps we should look back to Roman times when this practice was also previlant and look for an apology for our ancestors being treated as slaves and worked to death as well!
Slavery is wrong and what happened back then was wrong, no doubt about it.
I am not responsible for it or any part of it!
I do love the way some of the facts are glossed over an forgotten such as
a lot of the people sold into slavery where captured by other tribes, in battle or raids on their 'enemies' and sold to the slave masters.
I we really want to get into it then perhaps we should look back to Roman times when this practice was also previlant and look for an apology for our ancestors being treated as slaves and worked to death as well!
Too true. Not to mention the fact that the British Empire were the first to abolish slavery when the Act for the Abolition of the Slave Trade was passed in Parliament in 1807. This made slavery and the transport of slaves illegal within the Empire. Then in 1833 and 1834 slavery was made illegal altogether in the Empire.
Also, the British have certainly made more effort to try to undo some of the wrongs we/they were guilty of than any other country.
That fact is always overlooked. Other countries remained involved in the slave trade LONG after Britain declared it illegal.
21 March 2007, 03:33 PM
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ken for prime minister one of my hero;s but the people now have nothing tae say sorry aboot it happened a long time ago and nothing tae dae wae the present generation
21 March 2007, 03:34 PM
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I am a bit tired of people apologising for thsi on my behalf - and suggesting reperaions!
Slavery is wrong and what happened back then was wrong, no doubt about it.
I am not responsible for it or any part of it!
I do love the way some of the facts are glossed over an forgotten such as
a lot of the people sold into slavery where captured by other tribes, in battle or raids on their 'enemies' and sold to the slave masters.
I we really want to get into it then perhaps we should look back to Roman times when this practice was also previlant and look for an apology for our ancestors being treated as slaves and worked to death as well!
Slavery is wrong and what happened back then was wrong, no doubt about it.
I am not responsible for it or any part of it!
I do love the way some of the facts are glossed over an forgotten such as
a lot of the people sold into slavery where captured by other tribes, in battle or raids on their 'enemies' and sold to the slave masters.
I we really want to get into it then perhaps we should look back to Roman times when this practice was also previlant and look for an apology for our ancestors being treated as slaves and worked to death as well!
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"It is important because the legacy of slavery remains with many black people on a daily basis."
Now without meaning to sound racist/right wing over this... i think to be fair to most 5th (or however many generation) blacks living in this country, the only legacy they have to live with is the fact that they are growing up in the UK not Gambia or somewhere on the gold coast!... a legacy im sure many of them are grateful ive theyve ever seen 'real africa' ?
Now without meaning to sound racist/right wing over this... i think to be fair to most 5th (or however many generation) blacks living in this country, the only legacy they have to live with is the fact that they are growing up in the UK not Gambia or somewhere on the gold coast!... a legacy im sure many of them are grateful ive theyve ever seen 'real africa' ?
21 March 2007, 03:41 PM
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"It is important because the legacy of slavery remains with many black people on a daily basis."
Now without meaning to sound racist/right wing over this... i think to be fair to most 5th (or however many generation) blacks living in this country, the only legacy they have to live with is the fact that they are growing up in the UK not Gambia or somewhere on the gold coast!... a legacy im sure many of them are grateful ive theyve ever seen 'real africa' ?
Now without meaning to sound racist/right wing over this... i think to be fair to most 5th (or however many generation) blacks living in this country, the only legacy they have to live with is the fact that they are growing up in the UK not Gambia or somewhere on the gold coast!... a legacy im sure many of them are grateful ive theyve ever seen 'real africa' ?
u will cry
21 March 2007, 03:42 PM
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He's quite happy to apologise for the actions of others centuries ago, but refuses to apologise for his anti-semetic remarks to a jewish reporter. Says more about him than anything else, oxygen thief that he is.
21 March 2007, 03:47 PM
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dude regarding legacy , just imagine been took as a slave 200 yrs or so back fae africa tae the usa and dreamed of going back tae yer homeland and seeing yer kids, family or kin or your land and being enslaved and tortured and dying and all your descendants in the usa have forgotten who u were and the cravings of being free and going back tae yer homeland
u will cry
u will cry
do you treat black folk differently because their ancestors may have been your slave? because i dont, so i dont really see a legacy that lives with anyone on a daily basis to do with slavery, as you have said, its so long in the past!
Charles James Fox the MP partly responsible for the repeal is actualy an ancestor of mine, but thats so long ago too, im not saying slavery was ever right, to remove people from their familys and homeland, but to say it still has a negative effect on these peoples lives if just a bit far fetched!
21 March 2007, 04:00 PM
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i hear what you are saying, but at the end of the day, the guys taken as slaves would feel like this, their decendents have so many other issues going on that i dont think they are really gonna cry over their ancestors loss.... esp if 'its so hard growing up being black' in the UK or whatever is being said by some people
do you treat black folk differently because their ancestors may have been your slave? because i dont, so i dont really see a legacy that lives with anyone on a daily basis to do with slavery, as you have said, its so long in the past!
Charles James Fox the MP partly responsible for the repeal is actualy an ancestor of mine, but thats so long ago too, im not saying slavery was ever right, to remove people from their familys and homeland, but to say it still has a negative effect on these peoples lives if just a bit far fetched!
do you treat black folk differently because their ancestors may have been your slave? because i dont, so i dont really see a legacy that lives with anyone on a daily basis to do with slavery, as you have said, its so long in the past!
Charles James Fox the MP partly responsible for the repeal is actualy an ancestor of mine, but thats so long ago too, im not saying slavery was ever right, to remove people from their familys and homeland, but to say it still has a negative effect on these peoples lives if just a bit far fetched!
me personally i have a special place for blacks specially the american ones
and also see as a muslim mate muslims owe a debt tae the black christian king of abbysinia, he saved the early muslims from his evil ally the pagan arabs
its a sentimental issue and also my fave sheikhs r african american as well
u put up a nice post and makes sense
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In Alan B'Stard mode....
"Bring it back I say! But not just for blacks, although we could round up a few knife gangs, but generally for the unwashed, chavs, estate agents, bank employees, call centre workers, premier league soccer players and politicians - present company excepted. And Graham Norton.
Get them to build schools, hospitals and go and help out in Iraq.
So many problems solved!"
"Bring it back I say! But not just for blacks, although we could round up a few knife gangs, but generally for the unwashed, chavs, estate agents, bank employees, call centre workers, premier league soccer players and politicians - present company excepted. And Graham Norton.
Get them to build schools, hospitals and go and help out in Iraq.
So many problems solved!"
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Anyway, the comment was tongue in cheek. Have you never seen "The Life of Brian"?
21 March 2007, 04:07 PM
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I'm not sure where you get this idea from. You think that Britain (not UK) was full of people living like animals 2000 years ago? Think again. While I agree it was not such a "civilized" place as Rome (I used quotes as this is a relative term), there certainly was a civilization here.
Anyway, the comment was tongue in cheek. Have you never seen "The Life of Brian"?
Anyway, the comment was tongue in cheek. Have you never seen "The Life of Brian"?
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they told him tae apologise, why should he, the lad woz a journalist and he called him something and then he said if he did say sorry it wont be fae his heart, so whats the point
him being an antisemite, thats bollox
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Well - here oop North they gave us Hadrian's Wall which is a great money spinner for the Northern Tourist industry
PS Interesting fact I have just discovered - William Wilberforce lived about three miles from where I live now. Of course that was two hundred years ago, for him, not me. Ok, it wasn't interesting.
PS Interesting fact I have just discovered - William Wilberforce lived about three miles from where I live now. Of course that was two hundred years ago, for him, not me. Ok, it wasn't interesting.