pslewis

Just seen an article on TV about a woman who hasn't worked since John Major was in power .... she has kids and we are paying for her upkeep!

She gets £900 a month, not a lot - of course - but then she reels off all the other things she does not have to pay for!!

Council Tax, Water Rates, Prescriptions, Dental Treatment, Optician Services + Glasses, and loads of other benefits you get if on 'Benefits'!!!!

At a guess I'd say she was getting the equivalent of around £1400 a month!! For doing absolutely NOTHING!!

OK, £1400 is not a lot these days - but, this is to sit on your fat **** rubbing your 2 brain cells together!!

We should make her do some form of work, for free, say - work in the schools helping out? Cleaning the streets? Doing some shopping for the Elderly? Something for the £1400 NET she gets!!!!!!!!!

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

sounds like a job you were born to do

Dieseldog

Agreed. That's about £20k a year FFS!! The feckless and irresponsible need a size ten up their ****, not a handout.

paulr

Thinking of becoming a house-husband,or is this another PSlewis wind up

Lee247

Reminds me of that Wife Swap programme, where the working couple were living on 28k and fat Lizzie with her brood and loafing husband were living on 38k benefits

Chip

Life under NewLabour! Great isn't it

Chip

Abdabz

Agree with the above. What incentive did the fat ugly miserable heffer have for going back to work?
Seems mental that I know folk who earn less than that who have to get up and graft everyday

JonMc

iTrader: (51)

My cousin was in a similar boat as a single mum, limited by what she could do but needed for nothing. However, she's got some pride and as soon as her daughter went to school she got on one of these back to work scheme and is now a qualified sports physio who did her time with Tranmere Rovers and travelled to europe with Liverpool, not bad for someone who left school with no qualifications, so there is really no excuse for anyone to be sat at home creaming off my taxes...

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

Hate to say it but I agree, I dont take home that much and I work full time !!

Whilst the children are too young to go to school I dont mind so much, although if you cant afford kids, dont have kids is a better option

StickyMicky

i have a part time lad who broke his ankle, and he gets some kind of "back to work credit" from the goverment to help ease him back into work/new job

for only working 2 days a week, he does OK

Petem95

Well you know what do you DCI, vote Labour out of power!

Just look at the benefits Abu Hamza has been getting for breeding a load of terrorists here - outrageous - must be MANY more like him too.

corradoboy

The woman who lives opposite me doesn't live with her husband, so they can both claim housing. He even has a lodger. She has a job, is supposedly OK at it and respected, and could if she wanted go full time, but that would affect her benefits. She has two kids, one whom occasionally lives with her when he isn't in care, and a daughter whom visits sometimes with the other Dad. She has it all sussed, and it p!$$e$ me off no end. She has the ability to reduce her impact on us all but chooses not to out of sheer arrogance. She does however always wear very short skirts

Alas

Dependent on her legs - that could be enough to forgive her

corradoboy

Exactly

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pslewis

Now, I see they are going to pay for decent clothes to give them for Interviews and something to hide their Tatts!!

If they can afford to smoke, drink and have Tatts done then they can pay for their own bloody Interview Clothes!!

Personally, anyone stupid enough to think a Tattoo is clever doesn't warrant a decent job. But thats just my (and 99% of others) opinion

There is an under class in this country that need removing permanently!

Dieseldog

... and the trouble is, they're the ones breeding like rabbits. Should be a limit for benefits - 18 months max, and after that you have your knackers lopped off.

fast bloke

Those who decided they can't be arsed working should be given shelter, basic clothing and basic food - no **** or drink, no holidays, no cars etc etc. I think they used to have a system like this - it was called the poorhouse. I know a person who has been off work with depression since 1985. He even gets his golf club fees paid by the NHS to 'aid his recovery.'

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

depression is a difficult thing to recover from... saying that I've found a good job normally sorts it !

Leslie

Tell you what PSL, why don't you write to your hero and tell him what you, as a committed and blind supporter of Labour, think of what his and his sad cronies' policies have brought this country down to. If you are quick he may just get the letter before they catch up with him!

Les

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

Thinking about putting one of those petitions on the PMs site

"we the undersigned would like the government to force workshy baby making machines (aka the long term unemployed) back to work instead of rewarding their idleness with yet more benefits, plasma tvs and generally encouraging them to sponge off the rest of us that actually do some work."

5t.

Mrs WRX

Just a genuine question here, I thought water rates were not part of benefits. You still have to pay them. My friend is a proud mother of 5 and hasnt worked a day in her life (dont ask it is a very sore point in my house and p*sses me off too) and she was moaning about the water rates. I am sure she has to pay them and doesnt get a reduction just because she is on benefits.

Mind you I could be wrong.

Bat-Fink

How's your mate Hitler nowdays?

The Zohan

This is an example of the sort of people who should be supported by the system, there are many more, careers, disabled, etc.

The problem is that certain elements have used and abused the system and been allowed to by successive governments with little or no encouragement or incentives to get back into the workplace and contribute.
There was blue murder when Clinton introduced a limit on the duration of benefits and as it turns out even to those who stood 100% against it have agreed that having seen this work that they fully support it now.

We have second and third generation scroungers and work-shy people who do not have any intention of working and contributing to this country or the welfare system other than to scrounge off of it.
There will always be those who need it and it should be there for those people.

Interesting debate of R5 live this morning on this very subject and some varied and diverse views.
When you hear from some post office managers that some single mothers tuning up at post offices and getting £500.00-600.00 cash payments (excluding child benefit) to look after their 5 kids all fathered by different blokes then you must conclude that the current system just does not work!

Dieseldog

He's fine, thanks. He's coming round later for a game of Trivial Pursuit...

The Zohan

Yu joke about this, quite rightly so but it does seem like having more kids whilst on benifits is rewarded by more money and other benefits


On thing that is being looked at is removing child benefits when the youngest child reaches 12 not 16.

The 'Vikki Pollard' generation - and for those who think she is a Little Britian invention then pop down to your local benefits offices during th day, not too early mind, and have a look for yourselves!


I know of one woman* who has 5 kids by 3 diferent fathers, she has a 4 bed concil house and no need to work as she has easliy enough to get by on.

Why

She gets a serious payment each month frm the goverment iin the form of benefits for the kids and her as she is a 'single' mum.

Her boyfriend who works (is not registered at the house) lives with her and pays his way. *I actiually know this guy through a friend, not the her really. He is a mager for a logistics firm and earns around £30k per annum so not a fortune and to enough to fully support her in the lifestyle she is usd to.

She does have a cash in hand job at the local pub to make 'pin money'.

They go away on holiday twice a year.

This bothers me that she has taken out of the system since she was 17, never worked and gets all these benefits. I would not want to see the kids suffer but it is another example of the system at fault IMHO.

The system is easy to fool.

I once got signed of of work (i had handed in my notice and did not want to go in for the month, the company had taken the pee with me workong 90+ hours a week for 9 months) by going to the doctor and quoting the symptoms of stress, which i had read in a magazine the evening before, he signed me off for a month and said just pop back if i needed another note. I was paid for the month in hand and did not claim anything from the state as such!

Same goes for when i injured my back. I was told that back trouble was almost impossible to disprove and that i could get signed of for as long as i wanted/needed. I tis cas i wne back to work within two weeks withut climing for aything as i was employed and signed of sick, paid by the employer but i could have stayed off for as long as i wanted.

turboman786

Theres examples of people sponging off the state wherever you go....

It is the norm in every inner city....

Even most working people in certain trades such as taxis, joiners, plumbers etc are all signing on , enjoying a tax free income...

Welcome to Blairs well fed underclass....

borat52

Definately the way forward, give them a room to sleep in, provide meals for them and give them something to wear - could even buy all of oxfams stock off them for clothes. Make sure they have nothing luxurious. If they really dont want to work then you have fulfulled your moral obgliations to house and keep them that society seems to like, if they dont like living in a s**thole then they'll get off their bums and find a job. Personally I'd make it like a university hall of residence, ultra cheap accomodation and free food. Also stick it up far away from decent area's so they can't walk into them and steal our cars.

The Zohan

Sadly, one issue is that we in the UK let migrant workers into the Uk to do jobs that some unemployed will not do for whatever reason, this seems like madness to me, they (unemployed) should not be in a position to pick and choose on this basis, the above would certainly help with that!

Isn't it about time one of SN's chattering class bleeding hearts stepped up to fight the cause for the other side!

AudiLover

tax evasion is serious business, and most plumbrs I know of, inncluding myself pay a bundle of tax

Story.

Girl worked in a shop part time for a year or two. Quit and is now living on benefits. Shes 18. Her mother is also on benefits, her youngest child was soon turning to the age of where the mother would no longer get money from the governement for "it", so she has ANOTHER baby coming on the way so the governemtn keeps sending her that juicy cheque. Fcukin pisses me off big time.

Another girl, 18 gets benefits because her mum died of cancer, and her father gets benefits. Maybe hes still grieving, but he hasnt worked for years. maybe he was looking after his sickly wife, but what takes the biscuit is that he lives in a 300k house, has a plasma TV and buys his daughter a brand new car. All paid for by us.