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Old 01 February 2007, 02:43 PM
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The following story appeared in todays Bangkok Post, the source is Reuters.

A group of pakistani men have been accused of raping a teenage girl and forcing her to parade naked through her village because one of her relatives eloped with a young woman from the men's family.
Such attacks, known as honour crimes because they are committed in response to a perceived slight on a family's honour, are common in predominantly Muslim Pakistan, especially in rural communities.
Police said the girl's father had filed a complaint on Saturday in Ubaro town, 530km from Karachi, saying a group of 11 men had kidnapped his daughter, raped her, and forced her to pararade naked. The father told police the men were furious because the girl's cousin had eloped with and married a young woman from their family.
"Other villagers have come forward and said the girl was raped and her clothes torn off," said investigating officer Aftab Farooqi.
"They also claim she was forced to walk naked through the village streets, before an older woman covered her with a blanket," he said.
The girl is currently in hospital in Ubaro. Another senior police official, Mushtaq Khoso, said police had arrested four of the eleven men named in the complaint and were awaiting the results of a medical report to confirm the 16-year-old had been raped.
Another police officer, who did not want to be named, said certain influential people were attemping to pressure the father into dropping his complaint.

The case echoes a similar attack on a woman in 2002, the woman Mukhtaran Mai, was gang raped on the orders of a village council in the Punjab province as punishment because her brother had had a relationship with a young woman without the approval of her family.
Ms Mai pressed charges against her attackers and the resulting publicity helped galvanise public opinion behind a government backed change to Islamic rape laws, approved late last year,that makes it easier for women to seek justice in civil courts.
Under the previous Islamic law a woman faced prosecution for adultery unless she could produce four male witnesses to the rape.
Old 01 February 2007, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
Ms Mai pressed charges against her attackers and the resulting publicity helped galvanise public opinion behind a government backed change to Islamic rape laws, approved late last year,that makes it easier for women to seek justice in civil courts.
Under the previous Islamic law a woman faced prosecution for adultery unless she could produce four male witnesses to the rape.
At least things are moving forward. Hopefully new laws will see this sort of thing stamped out.

Terrible story , though.
Old 01 February 2007, 03:13 PM
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The problem with the new law though is the amount of opposition it faced from people with both influence and power.

As much as the Americans like to harp on about democratically elected governments, General Musharraf is in my opinion proof that a self appointed ruler is sometimes what's needed to sort a country out.
He is facing massive opposition from the traditionalist hardliners in his battle to improve the lot of Pakistan's population in general, and that of it's women in particular. It often is through the sheer strength of his will that many of his reforms are achieving recognition in law.
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
At least things are moving forward. Hopefully new laws will see this sort of thing stamped out.

Terrible story , though.
sorry pete your a dreamer/good intentions but .........dreamer.
Old 01 February 2007, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
The following story appeared in todays Bangkok Post, the source is Reuters.

A group of pakistani men have been accused of raping a teenage girl and forcing her to parade naked through her village because one of her relatives eloped with a young woman from the men's family.
Such attacks, known as honour crimes because they are committed in response to a perceived slight on a family's honour, are common in predominantly Muslim Pakistan, especially in rural communities.
Police said the girl's father had filed a complaint on Saturday in Ubaro town, 530km from Karachi, saying a group of 11 men had kidnapped his daughter, raped her, and forced her to pararade naked. The father told police the men were furious because the girl's cousin had eloped with and married a young woman from their family.
"Other villagers have come forward and said the girl was raped and her clothes torn off," said investigating officer Aftab Farooqi.
"They also claim she was forced to walk naked through the village streets, before an older woman covered her with a blanket," he said.
The girl is currently in hospital in Ubaro. Another senior police official, Mushtaq Khoso, said police had arrested four of the eleven men named in the complaint and were awaiting the results of a medical report to confirm the 16-year-old had been raped.
Another police officer, who did not want to be named, said certain influential people were attemping to pressure the father into dropping his complaint.

The case echoes a similar attack on a woman in 2002, the woman Mukhtaran Mai, was gang raped on the orders of a village council in the Punjab province as punishment because her brother had had a relationship with a young woman without the approval of her family.
Ms Mai pressed charges against her attackers and the resulting publicity helped galvanise public opinion behind a government backed change to Islamic rape laws, approved late last year,that makes it easier for women to seek justice in civil courts.
Under the previous Islamic law a woman faced prosecution for adultery unless she could produce four male witnesses to the rape.

Point 1

Pakistan does NOT implement Sharia law, if it did, then President Musharrafand his ilk would have long been killed for their many many crimes and overwhelming corruption.

Point 2

There is NO country in the world that currently has Sharia law. Saudi/Pakistan etc PURPORT to have it, but in reality they pick and choose the aspects which will help them preserve their despotic regimes...

Point 3

Examples like the above are pointless as they demonstrate a form pf pseudo religious/pseudo tribal law, and therfore have little if any bearing on the merits of Shariah law.
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
As much as the Americans like to harp on about democratically elected governments, General Musharraf is in my opinion proof that a self appointed ruler is sometimes what's needed to sort a country out.
He is facing massive opposition from the traditionalist hardliners in his battle to improve the lot of Pakistan's population in general, and that of it's women in particular. .
LOL...CrisP, you've obviously never been to Pakistan and obviously have no idea what Musharraf and friends are all about, if you did, you certainly wouldnt consider him some kind of saviour for the Pak public!!

He is a corrupt evil man, supported by the West because for the TIME BEING he serves the US/UKs foreign interests....a bit like the British/Amercian love of the Saudi regime....
Old 02 February 2007, 10:41 AM
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i usually dont reply tae posts like this any more coz its entertainment for some scoobynet baboons



but as my bros turbo said, pakistan dont follow any sharia, nae country in the muslim world does

trust me if the sharia woz implemented in pakistan, no one will dare rape a woman or women, or even glare at them


penalty for rape is death, if she woz paraded like that in front of everyone and everyone stood by and watched, trust me they would have been punished severly
not a single muslim nation practises sharia, not even saudi corrupt arabia scum

its a class difference their if u r rich u get away wae it, if u aint, u get punished

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It is an awful story and is an indication of the dangers of the wrong people getting into power. This sort of thing has to be stopped by the people themselves as difficult as that may be to do. We see so many instances all over the world of people getting into control and manipulating government actions to suit their own ambitions at the expense of decent honest people.

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Old 02 February 2007, 01:48 PM
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Tae? Nae? Woz?

Is this some sort of special language?
Old 02 February 2007, 02:05 PM
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It's Scottish mate .

I actually find it quite easy to read, but then I grew up north of the border, a loooong way north of it in fact!
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That may be true but it's fecking annoying 'tae' read.
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You'd think Moses would make more effort to integrate and speak the language wouldn't you!
Old 02 February 2007, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
You'd think Moses would make more effort to integrate and speak the language wouldn't you!
lol im a scot i dont wanna integrate wae u lot
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