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Old 21 January 2007, 08:23 PM
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A friend has asked me to fit some lights and switches to a plubic waiting room what level of training will i need to do this?

I have been taught how to wire a house and got an NVQ level 2 foundation in electrical engineering manufacture, will this be enough?

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Old 21 January 2007, 08:24 PM
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Think the question should b, do u know how to do it and do u think u can do it without screwing up?
Old 21 January 2007, 08:33 PM
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as it is a public waiting room i also think you need to be registered with a profesional body think they are nic and eic not 100% sure so i stand to be corrected
Old 21 January 2007, 08:38 PM
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Yes i know how to do it and am very confident about doing it.... there is going to be a qulified electriction who is going to do safty checks after they have been fitted
Old 21 January 2007, 08:54 PM
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The wires have been run and connected to the fuse box all i have to do is connect the lights and switches
Old 21 January 2007, 10:05 PM
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Hi, Well mate as a qualified electrician of 16 years, I think that if you have to ask such a daft question on Scoobynet then you shouldn't be doing the job and leave it to someone that knows what they're doing.
But to answer your question you or your company have to be registered with a recognised body in most cases NICEIC. If you stay in England or Wales you will also have to have the qualification C&G 2391 INSPECTION AND TESTING as well as the 16th IEE regulations, if you stay in Scotland you just need the 16th IEE.
To be honest if you don't know 100% in what your doing or don't have the above qualifications then don't do it, as any test certificate that you sign is then a legally binding document and could land you in court or even jail.
Old 22 January 2007, 01:09 AM
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Surely he was just asking what current qualifications are needed to do the job not how to do the Job
Old 22 January 2007, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by scotthldr
Hi, Well mate as a qualified electrician of 16 years, I think that if you have to ask such a daft question on Scoobynet then you shouldn't be doing the job and leave it to someone that knows what they're doing.
But to answer your question you or your company have to be registered with a recognised body in most cases NICEIC. If you stay in England or Wales you will also have to have the qualification C&G 2391 INSPECTION AND TESTING as well as the 16th IEE regulations, if you stay in Scotland you just need the 16th IEE.
To be honest if you don't know 100% in what your doing or don't have the above qualifications then don't do it, as any test certificate that you sign is then a legally binding document and could land you in court or even jail.
as an electritian of 16 years i thought you would ahve known that the NICEIC are a registred charity and there are no obligations to be a member of any such organisation to carry out electrical work. on the other hand i do agree that he shouldn't do the job if he isn't qualified to do it.
Old 22 January 2007, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by thedon
as an electritian of 16 years i thought you would ahve known that the NICEIC are a registred charity and there are no obligations to be a member of any such organisation to carry out electrical work. on the other hand i do agree that he shouldn't do the job if he isn't qualified to do it.

All he asked was are HIS qualifications enough to do the work also....

There are so many law changes WHO can keep up....

Im a qualified welder and could never get my head round half the legal tripe.... Given that a wide berth now...
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At least 2 people read my threds properly cheers guys....
Old 22 January 2007, 03:31 PM
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Provided its being checked and tested by the qualified guy then your okay.

And yes NICEIC is the appropriate qualifications and professional body to check and test your own installations.
Old 22 January 2007, 05:15 PM
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Im qualified spark and i agree your ok to do it, as its being checked
Old 22 January 2007, 07:46 PM
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Thanks guys The guy who is checking it is NICEIC regestered
Old 22 January 2007, 09:24 PM
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There is no legal requirement for you to be registered with any of the Electrical registration companies (NICEIC, NAPIT, ELECSA, BSA, etc) to undertake non domestic work.

They are not charities...far from it - they are there to make money!

I would suggest as a minimum you have 2381 and 2391. I would also suggest some liability insurance too.

Depending on what the other sparky is doing for you, you may have to be confident in issuing certificates.

Kermit
Old 22 January 2007, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by thedon
as an electritian of 16 years i thought you would ahve known that the NICEIC are a registred charity and there are no obligations to be a member of any such organisation to carry out electrical work. on the other hand i do agree that he shouldn't do the job if he isn't qualified to do it.
Well shows how much you know, in order to carry out testing legally you must be registered with a professional body, NICEIC are the most widely known, JIB / SJIB AND SELECT(Scotland only) are amongst others. Each test certificate is accountable and once signed becomes a legally binding document weather or not you are qualified. Also since the work being carried out in a public place, you should have some kind of insurance as working in a public place is far different from a private residence ie: public liability and the like. The reason for all this red tape is cut down on the amount of sub standard workmanship by people that think they know it all when in fact they don't have a SCOOBY!!
Old 22 January 2007, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoove mike
Thanks guys The guy who is checking it is NICEIC regestered
just a thought, ask kip

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Old 22 January 2007, 10:37 PM
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Cut the blue wire.
Old 23 January 2007, 11:52 AM
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if you know what your doing and your confident its safe when completed then its ok to do it yourself but if anyone gets injured due to faulty or dangerous installation you will have to account for your actions in a court of law as would any electrician...30 years experience
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